To be fair, and I am by no means a fan of him, its his job to bring it to the table, the CEO will have signed off on it.
This is on Robertson and no one else, Bisgrove will bring opportunities to the board, give them the numbers and then if it is at a certain revenue level it will need signed off from the board who should be taking the risks and rewards into account.
The only thing Bisgrove has done wrong in all this is try and come out and bluff his way through it, no doubt pushed out by Robertson who seems immune to scrutiny or actually telling the fans why he is making decisions he makes, which doesn't make it right.
The fans pile plenty money into the club.I'd say that they may be liable but are not to blame.
Put it this way are you blaming the fans for missing out on 3 million+ income?
I've seen people discussing squad depth and the need for players. Spent wisely that could have brought in two, would it have helped with financial fair play? Would sponsors have made the income at the tournie even better?
I'm not getting into the ins and outs, but I was not as against the friendly tournie as a lot of others, I see comments about how much the scum are spending on players, and that's maybe a reason why.
You can't have it both ways, the Board pulled out at the fans behest.
That's just my opinion.
This isn’t me being anti Celtic or anything, but I live in Sydney and I’ve literally got no idea. Didn’t see any press coverage, all I saw was the free tickets available through the school.Who won the Sydney Cup ? I'd imagine if it was them the SMSM would have had a 10 page souvenir supplement
The board were made aware by people within the club what the reaction would be and chose to ignore it which is even worse.100%. The board didn’t read the room. Crazy decision but even then if they’d communicated better from the start this could have been avoided.
I know Bisgroves remit mate but, clearly this Sydney cup was always going to be a non starter and you'd only need to have worked with us gir even a short period of time to know Bisgrove should have booted this idea.
Reports suggest Daily Record
Let’s wait and see, those 4 words above hardly have a great success rate. When court papers are live they are publicly available so why is it reports and suggest?
He's an outsider who only really looks at the money coming in regardless of how we get it.Bisgrove is the commercial director on the board. He brought it to the table.
The fans pile plenty money into the club.
Mygers alone would pay this fine.
Let's not blame the fans for the state of the squad as well.
Possibly but some of those in our boardroom today were involved in this.Dave was the leader.
If you had know it would have cost £1.6M would you still have wanted it canned ?
The board ARE to blame for the fine as they started the whole mess in the first place. The fans are not to blame for the absolute stupidity of entering into a friendly with Celtic and playing second fiddle to them.I'm not, in the same way I'm not blaming the Board for the fine.
I think I'm pretty clear on that.
Given it was the fans who threw the toys out of the pram I suggest a crowdfunder to pay for butthurt over a meaningless friendly should be started to cover the bill.
Should just setup a monthly direct debit tbh. Or maybe even weekly.Do we have a designated parking space at the courts?
Fans have bought mygers memberships en masse, bought add ons, refused refunds we were due from the 19/20 seasonI'd say that they may be liable but are not to blame.
Put it this way are you blaming the fans for missing out on 3 million+ income?
I've seen people discussing squad depth and the need for players. Spent wisely that could have brought in two, would it have helped with financial fair play? Would sponsors have made the income at the tournie even better?
I'm not getting into the ins and outs, but I was not as against the friendly tournie as a lot of others, I see comments about how much the scum are spending on players, and that's maybe a reason why.
You can't have it both ways, the Board pulled out at the fans behest.
That's just my opinion.
He also hasn't grown up as part of the rivalry here, so it's understandable that he might have misjudged the feeling. The board should have known better.To be fair, and I am by no means a fan of him, its his job to bring it to the table, the CEO will have signed off on it.
This is on Robertson and no one else, Bisgrove will bring opportunities to the board, give them the numbers and then if it is at a certain revenue level it will need signed off from the board who should be taking the risks and rewards into account.
The only thing Bisgrove has done wrong in all this is try and come out and bluff his way through it, no doubt pushed out by Robertson who seems immune to scrutiny or actually telling the fans why he is making decisions he makes, which doesn't make it right.
Absolutely, yes. Mygers is worth £2m+ a season when including add ons.If you had know it would have cost £1.6M would you still have wanted it canned ?
He isnt doing his job agreeing to something any supporter would have told him was a non starterBut then he isn't doing his job.
He has to deliver the proposal to the board, even more so if the revenue is in the millions.
It’s a total shambles, no wonder we haven’t had the funds to properly back managers.According to the record.
This is one bill which if it turns out is payable to the organisers, should be paid by the full board personally that signed off on this.
This simply shouldn’t be paid out of the club funds for what was an absolutely shocking idea.
I also struggle to see what our defence will be to avoid paying it as we all know they only withdrew due to severe opposition from the fans.
Absolutely criminal how much of our limited funds we’ve pissed away in court cases. Must be close to £15m to SD alone over the years and that’s not taking into account this new one, Hummel/Elite amongst others.
Exactly this. Volunteering to bend over for the team who tried to kill us to allow them to celebrate their manager at our expense is up there with the worst decision any Rangers board has ever made.In a word - yes.
In a few more words - yes, as it should teach the board to not be so utterly delusional and naïve in the future.
Cmon to fck. A friendly against that lot in Australia was already an EPL tourist league tinpotty move for a start.
But adding in playing second fiddle to super saint Ange's pyoor big didgeridoo-tooting homecoming should've been the indicator that they truly fecked things up.
The idea that no one - absolutely no one - in a position of power saw the reaction from fans coming just won't wash. Scandalous from all involved.
A million miles out of touch.
And they should be paying every penny of it. It's their fck up, they can pay it.
The board ARE to blame for the fine as they started the whole mess in the first place. The fans are not to blame for the absolute stupidity of entering into a friendly with Celtic and playing second fiddle to them.
I wonder if there will be a sacrificial lamb offered up before then..Hope the AGM isn’t staged in any sort of way so the fans get a proper chance to rip this board to absolute shreds. They deserve it for clusterfucks like this.
Nobody would want it for any amount of money.See I don't want to get in too deeply on my opinions on the Australia friendly. My point was and I will reiterate it, is that we cannot have it both ways.
Next year it could have been a friendly in the USA and 10 million income, but we will never know.
I just think it's unfair to continually bash the board when they have essentially listened to the majority and given them what they wanted.
Spot on.Absolutely, yes. Mygers is worth £2m+ a season when including add ons.
There’s some things you don’t do for money and playing Celtic in a friendly is at the top of the list
Hard times ahead unless Beale does wonders.Thank f.ck we stopped their 10.
Hard to be optimistic at the moment.
We needed the money now we have probably lost money. If they had said we don’t want this but the funds are vital to us then maybe the reaction would have differed?The board were made aware by people within the club what the reaction would be and chose to ignore it which is even worse.
Who won the Sydney Cup ? I'd imagine if it was them the SMSM would have had a 10 page souvenir supplement
All they wanted to do was see the Rangers, live.If the Australian support were happy to go along with being second fiddle to Anges homecoming then that says more about them than the wider support.
Having to give away free tickets negates their £1.6 million claimThis isn’t me being anti Celtic or anything, but I live in Sydney and I’ve literally got no idea. Didn’t see any press coverage, all I saw was the free tickets available through the school.
Total non event.
But they arent. The guys who go week in week out are. I think the Aussie boys would accept that.Australian fans aren’t the “actual” support.
Wouldn‘t be telling them that one face to face
Quite rightly, that's his remit.Bisgrove is the commercial director on the board. He brought it to the table.
100% correctIf the Australian support were happy to go along with being second fiddle to Anges homecoming then that says more about them than the wider support.
We can’t have it both ways?See I don't want to get in too deeply on my opinions on the Australia friendly. My point was and I will reiterate it, is that we cannot have it both ways.
Next year it could have been a friendly in the USA and 10 million income, but we will never know.
I just think it's unfair to continually bash the board when they have essentially listened to the majority and given them what they wanted.
That’s why it’s easily resolved by Rangers going to play in Aus against any other side.All they wanted to do was see the Rangers, live.
You know, instead of eight, six or four even two am for midweek games or changing and cancelling work and business for midweek games.
Frankly, it says more about you and the self important who can’t acknowledge this.
The few I know knew of the baggage this game had but were prepared to put up with it just to see the Rangers.
Exactly. No amount of money is worth it. Not to mention the yahoos would be getting at least the same amount as we would (if not more, knowing our board) so it's not like we're getting an advantage over them.Nobody would want it for any amount of money.
I have no issue with going to play friendlies over there but certainly not in Celtics wee tournament. No chance.All they wanted to do was see the Rangers, live.
You know, instead of eight, six or four even two am for midweek games or changing and cancelling work and business for midweek games.
Frankly, it says more about you and the self important who can’t acknowledge this.
The few I know knew of the baggage this game had but were prepared to put up with it just to see the Rangers.
I agree but that wasn’t on the table and still isn’t on the table.That’s why it’s easily resolved by Rangers going to play in Aus against any other side.
That’s before we even add on Clusterfuck Travel Management and the kit price fixing scandal!We can’t have it both ways?
No, the board can’t have it both ways. Record revenue, highest EL/CL ticket pricing, ST price increases, hospitality price increases, mygers as a ticket tax, mygers add ons, the 19/20 refund debacle and the clubs behaviour throughout. I could go on…
The fans have consistently put our hands in our pockets and backed the club. That reported £3m for the friendly is just slightly more than what mygers membership, add ons and rangers tv generate each year.
Fans have the right to criticise, it’s got nothing do with having it both ways