Interview: Patterson - Bassey - Zungu

You’re talking about the hysterical posters, yes?
I am saying that you would likely classify me as a hysterical poster for wanting them to be 'out in the cold' until at least the end of the season. You make a lot of good points in regard to this not being the case, though (and have done in recent weeks).

I am softening on the punishment, but not the severity of the offence. I'd get the sack in my job for similar.
 
That’s good for you. Well done. Many others take a little longer to grow up and get their shit together. I’m not going to castigate anyone for the mistakes of youth, especially when they’ve been appropriately punished and apologised for their actions.
They were/are being well rewarded for keeping to a minimum standard of behaviour. I agree with a lot of what you're saying but, to me, playing for Rangers is a massive privilege.

I think that they will have been appropriately punished after a period of absence.
 
We have all sat in the house for months , a lot not seeing grandkids etc etc
People losing their jobs or fretting about the future.
These guys are on wages most can dream about, getting abroad, training , even getting haircuts.
They have pissed all over the club and fans.
The weans in primary know the score about covid, they behave better.
 
That's it for me. They've apologised and we move on. I hope both lads go on to have cracking Rangers careers. Some of the rhetoric on here and on social media was over the top. Especially the dullards who opted to leave comments on Patterson and Bassey's instagram posts.
Who the hell thinks that because these guys play for us thinks they have the right to go abuse them on their personal accounts?

That is beyond entitled. It's creepy.

It is just madness to abuse these guys directly and think it is ok. I get that we were all disappointed in their actions but ffs have some perspective.
 
The least I expected.

To be honest, I’d be really surprised if that was the first time they’d done it, but we absolutely got away with one from whoever grassed immediately.

If it had been kept hush hush for a few days and they’d trained with the team and been on a flight to Belgium, god knows what would have happened.

The timing was beyond thick and it’ll take a lot for Gerrard to trust them again I’d imagine.
 
Its irrelevant what they might be worth, thats not an excuse to keep them.
Imo, Bassey will never be a regular first team player, as for Paterson - he obviously has the west of Scotland attitude problem as he does what he wants not his boss or club that pays his wages.
You're entitled to your opinion but I think you're being quite short sighted bud.
 
Who the hell thinks that because these guys play for us thinks they have the right to go abuse them on their personal accounts?

That is beyond entitled. It's creepy.

It is just madness to abuse these guys directly and think it is ok. I get that we were all disappointed in their actions but ffs have some perspective.
People might feel that they are lacking input due to the lack of fans. I agree it's out of order. We want our players to feel comfortable engaging with fans, no doubt.
 
They fucked up, they apologised and meant it, we got lucky in that it was found out quickly and no further harm was done, they get punished and we move on.

Glad this seems to be general consensus now that the dust has settled barring one or two who want them tarred, feathered and booted out - or just like the attention from saying that.
 
You're entitled to your opinion but I think you're being quite short sighted bud.
Of the five occasions that our youth team players went for more than £1m, two were Barry Ferguson and the majority under £3m.

We make more than that qualifying for the next stage of the Europa (which we have a good chance of doing despite playing some of the first leg without a recognised RB, and our replacement lacking training for the home leg due to self-inflicted suspension).

Maybe you're right when you adjust for inflation, but there isn't much in it.

If Patterson becomes our 3rd best-value academy product ever, he might repay what his idiocy jeopardised.
 
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Too many on here seem to believe they know steven gerrard personally. They dont and never have.

People might feel that they are lacking input due to the lack of fans. I agree it's out of order. We want our players to feel comfortable engaging with fans, no doubt.
I just don't get why people in general think that through media they "know" someone. To take it further and abuse anyone who puts out content, and that is all it is really, is madness.

I get stuff all the time from guys I actually work with and never in a million years would I have a full on rant giving them their character if they did something a bit out of order. To do it to someone you don't know and are never likely to just seems a bit unstable to me.

Imagine waking up after doing something stupid and loads of people you don't know are abusing you. Must be very difficult to take.
 
What these guys put at risk is frightening. Anyone with an inkling of the importance winning this title has on our heritage and for that to be potentially torpedoed by such a simple, selfish act, I can only hope it is the making of them as far as understanding the responsibility that comes with wearing the jersey. Then of course there is the health aspect, again, selfish.

I see no future for Zungu, Bassey maybe we’ll get a couple of years out of him as squad player but Patterson really needs to show up big time as he is the only one who should know better. If this challenge scares them off then they are certainly not right for the club.
 
I just don't get why people in general think that through media they "know" someone. To take it further and abuse anyone who puts out content, and that is all it is really, is madness.

I get stuff all the time from guys I actually work with and never in a million years would I have a full on rant giving them their character if they did something a bit out of order. To do it to someone you don't know and are never likely to just seems a bit unstable to me.

Imagine waking up after doing something stupid and loads of people you don't know are abusing you. Must be very difficult to take.
I've no doubt this on here is tame compared to what they've had to put up with from others platforms. Thats frightening and its downright nasty bullying.
 
Of the five occasions that our youth team players went for more than £1m, two were Barry Ferguson and the majority under £3m.

We make more than that qualifying for the next stage of the Europa (which we have a good chance of doing despite playing some of the first leg without a recognised RB, and our replacement lacking training for the home leg due to self-inflicted suspension).

Maybe you're right when you adjust for inflation, but there isn't much in it.

If Patterson becomes our 3rd best-value academy product ever, he might repay what his idiocy jeopardised.
I understand your viewpoint mate, I dont agree but I get it
 
I was initially angry about their behaviour but now starting to feel the whole episode has been blown out of proportion. No one caught Covid, yes they were stupid but the punishment has to fit the crime which was hardly a serious offence.
I do recognise that we were lucky that they never joined training with the squad as we would have had to play youths.
That’s the issue mate. It’s not about the crime which tens of thousands maybe hundreds in the country have committed but the disregard of his team mates, fans, mgt and board members who have put fortunes into the club.

Def 2nd chance for me but SG needs to judge when and we need to trust him. He will know what to do.
 
We have all sat in the house for months , a lot not seeing grandkids etc etc
People losing their jobs or fretting about the future.
These guys are on wages most can dream about, getting abroad, training , even getting haircuts.
They have pissed all over the club and fans.
The weans in primary know the score about covid, they behave better.
Giving someone a lot of money doesn’t give them brains and judgement. It’s about how they have responded and what SG sees in their characters that matters now.
 
I am saying that you would likely classify me as a hysterical poster for wanting them to be 'out in the cold' until at least the end of the season. You make a lot of good points in regard to this not being the case, though (and have done in recent weeks).

I am softening on the punishment, but not the severity of the offence. I'd get the sack in my job for similar.
I know mate, just a wee joke.

My initial reaction was to freeze them out for the rest of the season and come back in the new season having served their time, except Zungu.
 
If I was on £xk a week to behave appropriately I likely would have. It's obviously more acceptable to be a balloon when your only responsibility is a £9 p/h job at Aldi.

My actions changed dramatically once I had a position/title. Patterson should have accepted the responsibility of his position alongside his wage/associated esteem.

He didn't.
Patterson was 19 five months ago.

Had no idea we had so many Mother Theresa's and Mary Whitehouses on here.

Money, age, responsibility you say...


 
A massive error of misjudgment from all involved, id think they have all been sitting alone for the last 10 days with their thoughts and regret eating them up. A bit of final humiliation going on camera and apologising to everyone. Can hear the genuine remorse in Pattersons voice.

All the best to the lads who have it all to prove now, and that can be a good thing for us and them.
 
I think the players might actually move on from their fuuck up and get on with their careers (where ever that might be) before some of the posters on here do.
 
Error of judgement? Entitlement? Couldn't give a %^*& for the pandemic/lockdown?

Only they know the reasons for what they did and what they did it for.

Quivering voices of remorse after being caught? Check.

That said, They've been punished by the club, so the only thing left for us to do really is accept it and move on.
 
Reads like a law to me,

A new law has come into force limiting social gatherings in Scotland to a maximum of six people from two households.

Coronavirus in Scotland: New rules limit gatherings to six people https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54140766

Thats not an endorsement of it by the way but it seems clear it’s been brought into Law. There’s maybe an argument about what constitutes a ‘crime’ and what constitutes ‘breaking the Law’ - but that’s for another day. It’s a Law not a Guideline as far as I can find - hence the FPN.

Your last line is a tad ironic.;)

Bbc have quite a habit of confusing the public, I’d suggest you do some reading as to how actual laws are introduced and passed.

It may also be worth grasping that any guidelines that contradict actual law like the Nuremberg code’ or even simple civil rights/discrimination laws then precedence shall always be granted to the laws and not the temporary guidelines.

If contested none of the fines/rule breaches will stand in court.

They are relying on people taking articles like the bbc one you posted at face value and simply paying the fines/accepting them.
 
I think the mhank that delivered the food will be laughing his head off, well would have been.
;) I wonder if they have a number 55 on the menu.
 
I doubt it.
The boys are still fu5kin idiots but for the time being their our idiots so if they are in gaffes an we support them...
I much preferred the days of rule breaking when players were getting pissed and fighting in kebab shops...different era I guess and no pandemic
 
i don’t want them ‘finished’ or anything like it - but just wonder what we would say if if was their players or another spl team? In some peoples jobs eg my own a police record would mean I would be unemployed . Im
Not saying they should be - in fact I think deserving a second chance - but it’s understandable some may not
 
The 5 will be suspended, and rightly so, when eventually the SFA get their act in gear. It would be unfair, therefore, for them to be suspended by Rangers pending that since we don’t know how long it will take. But suspended they should be since what they did was both serious and potentially disastrous to our season. However, I don’t think there are many people who have lost their jobs through lockdown breaches. So take their punishment and get on with it.
 
i don’t want them ‘finished’ or anything like it - but just wonder what we would say if if was their players or another spl team? In some peoples jobs eg my own a police record would mean I would be unemployed . Im
Not saying they should be - in fact I think deserving a second chance - but it’s understandable some may not
Does an on the spot fine give you a police record?
 
Had a mental conversation with a Tim about this yesterday. He started it by saying the SFA are corrupt to the core cause the 5 haven’t been punished yet.

I asked what punishment they got for Dubai and he responded by saying half there team had to miss two games.
I then pointed out that that wasn’t a punishment but just following protocols as they had came into contact with someone that tested positive for covid.
Even when I said that Kennedy had publicaly came out and admitted that protocols were breached he still couldn’t understand that they hadn’t been punished in anyway for going to Dubai
 
Unfortunately they cannot be trusted.
Let Zungu go in May and put the rest up for sale.
Maybe i am a bit old school ( mid 50s)
Waddell, souness and wallace would not have allowed them to play again.

Has there been occasion in your life where you made a c*nt of it? Were you thankful for those around you that gave you forgiveness or showed you a bit of compassion? We are all human and making mistakes is what we all have in common. If we wrote each other off after making a mistake we would all live a pretty isolated existence.
 
Sone difference in this thread with these boys and Edmundson and Jones. You could say these lads are younger, but then again they also watched the other situation and were warned again yet went and done it so probably balances it out. Patterson in particular has apparently been warned before about having gaffs in lockdown
Says who?
 
Bbc have quite a habit of confusing the public, I’d suggest you do some reading as to how actual laws are introduced and passed.

It may also be worth grasping that any guidelines that contradict actual law like the Nuremberg code’ or even simple civil rights/discrimination laws then precedence shall always be granted to the laws and not the temporary guidelines.

If contested none of the fines/rule breaches will stand in court.

They are relying on people taking articles like the bbc one you posted at face value and simply paying the fines/accepting them.
This particular exchange belongs in The Lounge.

Mate, I could have posted many other links, gimme some credit. I did visit both the Scottish and Westminster .GOV websites and found the actual legislation passing this into Law. I didn't post links because it is a very heavy read. You will be aware that most of the detail is set out in the various Statutory Instruments that support the overarching Act. Contentious for some but it remains the case that they breached the Law, not a 'guideline'.

You sound the sort who might have a bit of time for those well-known campaigner's Liberty who, if anyone, would have a handle on this. Maybe you find them a better source than the good old BBC. Applies in England but the Scottish legislation is much the same:


It contains the clear statements below. Its NOT breaching 'guidelines' to break these rules as you suggest. It IS a criminal offence/breaking the Law. You have got this wrong. Like everything, stuff like this can be challenged in Court. Give it a go and see how you get on:

CAN I BE FINED FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES ON GATHERINGS?

Yes. It is a criminal offence if you break the rules on gatherings without a reasonable excuse. You may be fined £100 for your first offence (or £200 if you fail to pay the fine within 14 days of it being issued), with the amount of the fine doubling for each offence that is committed up to a maximum of £6,400.

CAN I HAVE PEOPLE OVER TO MY HOUSE AND/OR GARDEN?

No. Under the law you cannot gather or socialise with anyone who is not from your household or your support bubble (where applicable) inside your home or in your garden, unless one of the exceptions applies.
 
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Sone difference in this thread with these boys and Edmundson and Jones. You could say these lads are younger, but then again they also watched the other situation and were warned again yet went and done it so probably balances it out. Patterson in particular has apparently been warned before about having gaffs in lockdown

Sounds like timmy bullshit to me.
 
They will be punished and we move on. End of story. The abuse is ridiculous, a player who wasn't even involved was getting all sorts of abuse thrown at him because of his name ffs.

They were wrong, but going by reports it was just them and their partners (still illegal) but not at a gaff with tons of randoms.

I have seen some comments on here by posters who also commented on the thread in the lounge about how they have broke covid rules, but yet are calling fr sackings etc. It's a joke.

These are young guys who made a mistake, they will be punished, fined, and would have had Gerrard going mental at them. I think they will have learned their lesson by the end of this.
 
This particular exchange belongs in The Lounge.

Mate, I could have posted many other links, gimme some credit. I did visit both the Scottish and Westminster .GOV websites and found the actual legislation passing this into Law. I didn't post links because it is a very heavy read. You will be aware that most of the detail is set out in the various Statutory Instruments that support the overarching Act. Contentious for some but it remains the case that they breached the Law, not a 'guideline'.

You sound the sort who might have a bit of time for those well-known campaigner's Liberty who, if anyone, would have a handle on this. Maybe you find them a better source than the good old BBC. Applies in England but the Scottish legislation is much the same:


It contains the clear statements below. Its NOT breaching 'guidelines' to break these rules as you suggest. It IS a criminal offence/breaking the Law. You have got this wrong. Like everything, stuff like this can be challenged in Court. Give it a go and see how you get on:

CAN I BE FINED FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES ON GATHERINGS?

Yes. It is a criminal offence if you break the rules on gatherings without a reasonable excuse. You may be fined £100 for your first offence (or £200 if you fail to pay the fine within 14 days of it being issued), with the amount of the fine doubling for each offence that is committed up to a maximum of £6,400.

CAN I HAVE PEOPLE OVER TO MY HOUSE AND/OR GARDEN?

No. Under the law you cannot gather or socialise with anyone who is not from your household or your support bubble (where applicable) inside your home or in your garden, unless one of the exceptions applies.
I’ve honestly no idea who they are but they are entitled to their opinion.

I’m speaking from personal experience when I say I know for a fact fines have mysteriously disappeared once contested.

If what you’re saying is true and these are indeed laws then what does that mean to some of our most important laws which these so blatantly contradict? The human rights charter amongst a few others could easily be used to dispute these rules.

I agree about your lounge point, unfortunately for me this is a new account so working on my post count to regain access, I’ll see you in there when that happens.
 
I’ve honestly no idea who they are but they are entitled to their opinion.

I’m speaking from personal experience when I say I know for a fact fines have mysteriously disappeared once contested.

If what you’re saying is true and these are indeed laws then what does that mean to some of our most important laws which these so blatantly contradict? The human rights charter amongst a few others could easily be used to dispute these rules.

I agree about your lounge point, unfortunately for me this is a new account so working on my post count to regain access, I’ll see you in there when that happens.
Can't believe someone with your take on things hasn't heard of Liberty, one of the foremost human rights campaigning groups in the World never mind the UK.:eek:

Honestly, I'm not being argumentative here just for the sake of it - these are Laws. They are not Guidelines.

Good Luck in your quest for Lounge access. See you in there.:)
 
Has there been occasion in your life where you made a c*nt of it? Were you thankful for those around you that gave you forgiveness or showed you a bit of compassion? We are all human and making mistakes is what we all have in common. If we wrote each other off after making a mistake we would all live a pretty isolated existence.
This is 5 players , not one individual who got together and thought , %^*& the law, %^*& the club and %^*& the manager.
Chasing a league that is the most important since 1872 imo and still in europe.
This isnt making a cant if yourself in the pub one night.
 
A strange watch, all 3 looked ashamed. I don't think a video of them apologizing does anything apart from make them feel worse. Obviously what they did was daft but like I've said before about they're young and people make mistakes. Same with Jones and Edmundson, I bet if one of these players who broke the 'rules' scores and wins us something opinions will drastically change.
 
Quite right IMHO that the club put them up there to take responsibility for their actions.

I imagine SG will be giving Bassey/Paterson at the very least the opportunity to get back to where they were before this, but it will (quite rightly) be a long road and should emphasise how fortunate they are to be a part of the club and to have the opportunity they nearly pissed down the toilet for fck all.

There can be no quick-fix for this, make them prove over a period that they are able to show the message has gotten through and they can prove their worth moving forward.
 
That’s grim mate sorry for your loss. Did your mate have any health issues did he smoke or was he overweight? Just curious seen a lot about recent people hospitalised being younger and not unhealthy before they caught COVID19. Ignore if you don’t want to answer.
Nothing. Just hit him severely. Very sad just enjoying a new born grand daughter. This just seems to attack different people in different and more severe ways
 
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