He must be doing something right if Feyenoord are sniffing about.
How about looking at it another way , What has Zeb Jacob’s done to prove he is the right man to develop footballers for our club he has no history of doing so, like most younger coaches nowadays he does a great power point presentation and says all the buzzwords. Why don’t we appoint someone who has a history of bringing through players cos the last 3 haven’t had that ,
The coaches and scouts are saying the same thing as the parents. I don’t know him but I trust people who do and they are telling me he’s a melt.
Isn’t that what current generations do change company and role fairly regularly ? Seems that way to me that those in there 30s and below run there careers that way . They have less commitment and loyalty to employers because they know companies have no real regard for them . It’s now understood by the employees.With the line of work hes in, Id say its not a good look having a change of employer every couple of years. Doesnt look good on the CV.
Is there anything tangible to show for his time with us? Can he point to any improvements and say “this was my input”?
If he can fair enough. If not, its all bluster and moody instagram photos at conferences.
Surely his job is to bridge that link?If he has been offered the chance to go to Feyenoord he should go. Their academy is night and day compared to ours, it’s a million miles better.
There’s far more of a link with first team and an onus on the manager their to use Academy players.
It’s academy staff mate and they are normal people so I wouldn’t be comfortable naming them in an open forum.Never knew that, who has left?
Agreed, but instead of trying to be really fancy and appointing a kid to run our academy, maybe we should appoint someone with experience of producing Scottish footballers.As i originally posted I’m not privy to any of the detail be it personality or relations or technical but I do stand by a professionals expertise over others .
It’s easy to say someone is crap . Really easy . Anyone can do that . We do it every day .
But at some point we need to make an appointment and provide them a base to move forward .
You should take it to the AGM and frame proper questions for the Board to explain the appointment and why he was so crap .
Undoubtedly.Players, fans and families.
Posters on here won’t say anything as they believe their access to games will be removed. A lots of parent less than complimentary on him and the set up under him.
However we have these under every academy director, so some sour grapes are possibly a reason.
What experience does KT have to run our Academy? His own academy is to make him money, nothing like an elite pro academy.Agreed, but instead of trying to be really fancy and appointing a kid to run our academy, maybe we should appoint someone with experience of producing Scottish footballers.
FWIW, David Gold, Alistair Stevenson and Kevin Thomson are all appropriate candidates to run our academy.
We do need a pathway for the 18-21 age group however, and that is down the national body to provide a platform for the kids.
I've heard he isn't.I assume he’s not particularly highly thought of at Auchenhowie judging by some of these posts?
Very true.Well it has a huge benefit as it means we are granted license to play in Europe. They have proper academies cause they have a pathway which allows young players to prosper we have nothing after u18s which stops players development as well as dinosaurs in charge of clubs in Scotland.
Anytime a kid does make it through they're given about 5 games before they're written off as pish on here.
Again I’ve no idea on who can do the job nor what the job specification and interview process asks candidates to example .Agreed, but instead of trying to be really fancy and appointing a kid to run our academy, maybe we should appoint someone with experience of producing Scottish footballers.
FWIW, David Gold, Alistair Stevenson and Kevin Thomson are all appropriate candidates to run our academy.
We do need a pathway for the 18-21 age group however, and that is down the national body to provide a platform for the kids.
Alistair must be close to 70 now I reckon. Took my Under 13 team 46 years ago!!!What experience does KT have to run our Academy? His own academy is to make him money, nothing like an elite pro academy.
Alistair Stevenson is a good shout but maybe too big a remit for him at this time. I’m not sure what age he is now.
Bet you weren’t bald thenAlistair must be close to 70 now I reckon. Took my Under 13 team 46 years ago!!!
Who are all these youth players at Celtic that are playing in their first team?It’s academy staff mate and they are normal people so I wouldn’t be comfortable naming them in an open forum.
The general sentiments towards him, and other senior academy staff that have also left, are that Auchenhowie was a horrible place to work. Socio-economic and academic status was a variable when opinions were voiced.
For those saying that the scouts or coaches don’t know more about producing footballers than some PowerPoint wiz kid from Belgium are kidding themselves.
For what it’s worth, the Celtic academy don’t seem to have the same issues. This is 100% an area we should be focusing on or else we will be left behind.
KT is working for Hibs now as well as running his own academy. Stevenson has a great record and he also brought through Gold and KT at Hibs. I am just suggesting that we don’t need to go far to get an adequate academy director, there are plenty of good candidates already working in our area.What experience does KT have to run our Academy? His own academy is to make him money, nothing like an elite pro academy.
Alistair Stevenson is a good shout but maybe too big a remit for him at this time. I’m not sure what age he is now.
Welsh, Ralston and McGregor have a trophy haul our senior players could only dream of. We have McCausland as a regular starter in our team.Who are all these youth players at Celtic that are playing in their first team?
Please . Welsh and Ralston lol .Welsh, Ralston and McGregor have a trophy haul our senior players could only dream of. We have McCausland as a regular starter in our team.
Two words, Ross Wilson.He must be doing something right if Feyenoord are sniffing about.
I will just assume that you are fishing . Even the most rancid of rancid bheasts wouldn't try to use Welsh and Ralston as some sort of barometer as to how much more productive their youth department is than ours.Welsh, Ralston and McGregor have a trophy haul our senior players could only dream of. We have McCausland as a regular starter in our team.
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…and our players and our manager, even other Rangers fans tooPeople on here always seem to slag our coaches etc despite never working with them so he’s just the next in a long line.
Could you put Silva in the superstar bracket? he started there and was a 35m ( next Ronaldo)Crazy money to spend for almost 0 return.
Benfica spend about £9 million a season on theirs and get superstar after superstar.
He’s part of process, but it’s not the responsibility of one guy to ensure we start producing players that are good enough or to employ managers that give young players a chance.Surely his job is to bridge that link?
Agreed - results aren’t the whole story at youth level, but losing matches at any level is not what I want to see.Our youth teams are quite poor and have been for a number of years
Seems to be that one of the u16’s and upwards teams are getting beat every other week.
If they can’t beat teams in their own age group then how are they expected to be good enough to not only break into the first team but also in your case be the first team.
People get starry eyed over youth prospects and I get to an extent why but ultimately when it comes down to it our record for producing 1st team talent is exceptionally poor
I think it is a worrying sign that he's not been in the role long and from reading the comments on here has managed to create a poor working environment and alienate coaches, players and parents.He’s part of process, but it’s not the responsibility of one guy to ensure we start producing players that are good enough or to employ managers that give young players a chance.
Can argue the merits of Jacobs work so far, but he’s not been in current role that long.
Strange that no one has ever mentioned any problems with him before this thread, and those that have are unable to explain what the issues are supposed to bePeople on here always seem to slag our coaches etc despite never working with them so he’s just the next in a long line.
Would need a big culture change within the fans. But I think that is required anyway.Instead of constantly buying sub standard players we should give youth a proper chance. And I’m not talking about 5 or 10 mins here and there.
With the line of work hes in, Id say its not a good look having a change of employer every couple of years. Doesnt look good on the CV.
Is there anything tangible to show for his time with us? Can he point to any improvements and say “this was my input”?
If he can fair enough. If not, its all bluster and moody instagram photos at conconferences
Strange that no one has ever mentioned any problems with him before this thread, and those that have are unable to explain what the issues are supposed to be
Doing away with the reserves fvcked the youth set up, playing against highland league teams is not the answer. Seeing the results of the youth teams doesn`t fill you with hope that some of them will be able to make the step up.
We need to realise that not every player is going to be a superstar. But we at least need to give them the opportunity to try. And the more experience they get from playing in the first team in the atmosphere of Ibrox can only help their developmentWould need a big culture change within the fans. But I think that is required anyway.
He'll arrange games of barefoot football for fun over there.
Quite the time of upheaval for the academy with Cammy Campbell not long away to Leipzig. At least our coaches are in demand.
Doing away with the reserves fvcked the youth set up, playing against highland league teams is not the answer. Seeing the results of the youth teams doesn`t fill you with hope that some of them will be able to make the step up.
Agreed - results aren’t the whole story at youth level, but losing matches at any level is not what I want to see.
When there’s a clamour to “play the youths” it usually means our first team squad is weak, and rarely will playing any youths make a meaningful difference to results.
The last youth player that I had high hopes for was Lowry, and things don’t look great on that front.
McCausland, despite showing a little bit of promise, I would expect to be eased out of the squad next season by better incoming players.
King won’t make it with us, I expect him to leave in the summer, and I have no real hopes for Bailey Rice either. Rory Wilson looked good, but went to Villa, fair enough.
I don’t know what the answer is, but Jacobs isn’t getting a ringing endorsement on this thread.
Must be where diddy’s goI don’t know much about the job he’s done but funny he’s a diddy on here yet feyenoord and Man City were wanting him involved