According to VAR Review Panel, we’ve had the most decisions incorrectly go against us of any club in the league

[Angrybluebear]

The games in which we've been on the end of mistaken decisions, haven't cost us points either...

The argument could actually be, they HAVE been on the end of a game changing decision that cost them points - the Hearts game at Tynecastle

They also haven't been on the end of a mistaken decision that has gifted them points...

So not sure what your point is really... you want referees to make more mistakes and them to be on the end of them?

The first “game changing” decision was to incorrectly award celtic a penalty early doors.

13 minutes in V Hearts at 0-0, game changing, game defining call it what you want. That goes in what happens afterwards probably didn’t happen as the play doesn’t follow the same pattern.

The decision to send off Yang was the correct decision. Even Brendan Rodgers knows the rules, a couple of weeks earlier at St Mirren Park Rodgers, agreed with the sending off, explaining why it is a red card:

“The guy’s not meaning to do it, but of course if you’re taking a stud in the eye, it’s dangerous play. It was clearly a red card.”

Nick Walsh cost Hibs points v them. At 1-1 with Hibs all over them he books Boyle for diving when there was clear contact, more than what he gave celtic for at Tynecastle earlier in the season. He awarded celtic 2 penalties, that night the first after 10 minutes, making history for the first penalty given in Scottish football for a clash of heads.

Nick Walsh is partial to awarding celtic penalties, particularly early settlers too. He has refereed 4 celtic games and awarded them 4 penalties, he also instructed a review for another when on VAR.

I don’t know why a panel can view both the Celtic penalty given at Tynecastle earlier in the season and Hibs denied v celtic at Easter Road both by the same ref and say both decision on almost identical incidents are correct, you can’t have different outcomes for the same thing.

 

[Raymond]

Well for a start, the VAR panel that we're talking about have determined that

a) the Roofe goal wasn't incorrect
b) the non-penalty award whilst incorrect, still wouldn't have seen a penalty awarded
c) Also wasn't incorrect

So, its not me categorically stating anything... its the VAR Independent Review Panel

I dug the answers out with relation to the 7 errors that have been attributed to our games

In the games mistakes went against is, it was:
Clancy and Kirkland
Robertson and Aitken
Walsh and Collum
Dickinson and Dallas
Beaton and Dallas

In the mistakes that went for us, it was:
Clancy and Kirkland (same game)
McLean and Kirkland

In all of those, Aitken is entirely blameless as he recommended a review that Robertson ignored

I can't really be bothered breaking down the other 17 decisions, we know it was Robertson and Beaton for the 2 in the game at Tynecastle

The Roof e goal was incorrect , , refer Dermott Gallagher , the penalty was incorrect , but they took half an hour to claim it was offside and also Tom Lawrence was deemed not a foul by the referee and var should not be used to determine free-kicks , there were several passages of play after the event including attempted clearances also refer Dermott Gallacher.

 

[Vince]

Best stat to look at to see a ref’s performance in a game imo is the fouls to booking ratio for each team. Guess which team almost always comes out miles ahead.

Correct. That stat should be by and large the same for every team in the league. However Celtic are in a category of their own in just about every season. Total corruption on show - but the media don’t touch it. We know what they are so no surprise. More unforgivable is that our own club don’t highlight it. If it was the tims they would be all over those stats.

 

[Angrybluebear]

The games in which we've been on the end of mistaken decisions, haven't cost us points either...

The argument could actually be, they HAVE been on the end of a game changing decision that cost them points - the Hearts game at Tynecastle

They also haven't been on the end of a mistaken decision that has gifted them points...

So not sure what your point is really... you want referees to make more mistakes and them to be on the end of them?

What’s concerning is the definition of a mistaken decision.

I can’t fathom why this wasn’t highlighted as an error.

Bemusement and sympathy for Rangers after call on incident that left starlet 'on crutches'

Gallagher says Casey’s tackle on McCausland was worthy of a red card – ‘not a nice tackle’

www.scotsman.com

Dan Casey Rangers red card should have been given as ex ref pinpoints VAR error

After a heavy tackle on Ross McCausland the Motherwell star would go on to score the winner for Motherwell at Ibrox.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk

This was clearly a decision that cost us points, we conceded a late goal scored by a guy that shouldn’t have been on the pitch. We should have been playing against 10 men for over an hour.

Not only did we lose the match we lost as it turned out a key player for several matches (even though he did try come back early and play injured v Betis and Hibs)

 

[Angrybluebear]

0

Same as we've also had 0

the IRP also says we've had 0 incorrectly ruled out, and the same applies to them.

There has also been 0 goals awarded on either side that should have been ruled out

Yes you can argue we’ve had 0 incorrectly ruled out as decided by a ref and the panel, however.

Roofe’s goal v celtic should have stood

Ref Watch: Kemar Roofe's Rangers goal should have stood in Old Firm defeat, says Dermot Gallagher

The referee has got it absolutely correct on the pitch - its not a foul, says ex-Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher to Kemar Roofes disallowed opener in Rangers loss to Celtic at Ibrox; Rangers also saw early Rabbi Matondo strike ruled out for offside

www.skysports.com

And for the SFA to respond in the manner they did merely highlighted the corruption running through that organisation.

Rangers admit astonishment at SFA response over disallowed goal v Celtic as club condemn abuse of referee

Rangers have confirmed their astonishment at the Scottish FA's response regarding the disallowed goal in the club’s 3-2 defeat to Celtic on Saturday.

www.scotsman.com

However if there was any dubiety over the corruption it was further demonstrated by their attempts to draw squinty lines half an hour after VAR had failed to award us a penalty at Parkhead. To date no one has ever admitted who or why the SFA were providing their own lines, it hadn’t happened before or since.

Dessers goal is very subjective, covered already This was Dermot Gallagher on Sky Ref Watch view

Gallagher felt Beaton was correct to award a penalty for the foul on Silva, as well as not awarding Johnston a second yellow, but he questioned if Cyriel Dessers’ goal should have been ruled out “There’s a lot of time to reset but the referee decides it’s a foul,” he said. “There’s no doubt it’s a foul, but is it part of the attacking phase? “Beaton’s sent to the screen for the third time. The question then is if it’s re-refereeing?”

So two goals disallowed following VAR reviews after the event. However we have had 2 goals wrongly disallowed from referees intent on stopping play where it was shown they were wrong to do so, McCausland at Livingston, yes it’s conveniently overlooked due to the penalty, but also Clancy’s ridiculous decision to blow as Cantwell is scoring.

Clement 'can't understand' Rangers disallowed goal and explains Kevin Clancy row

Philippe Clement has questioned VAR over Kevin Clancy's decision to disallow Todd Cantwell's goal in the win over Dundee

www.footballscotland.co.uk

 

[Snakehips]

The scary thing is, this is just the VAR issues. When you factor in all the sole refereeing decisions too, then it is clear there is a genuine bias amongst many officials, media and the SPFL/SFA. Butland’s booking last week being the latest nonsense decision. Going back earlier in the season, Maeda’s ‘tackle’ on Cantwell on the edge of the box going unpunished still baffles me.

The bias has been going on for years. Craig Gordon’s series of last man karate chops being worthy of only a yellow card stands out, as does Lego’s stonewall red card being downgraded so he could play in the OF. They even won the LC against us due to an offside goal. And Clancy’s performance at Parkhead still stands out as one of the most extreme examples of biased refereeing I have ever seen.

I fear it might require either our manager or chairman/CEO eventually having to take a bloody nose and publicly calling out the lack of parity, but if they haven’t done it by now then they probably never will. We really need to get Celtic’s placemen out of the SPFL/SFA before things will improve, as I can’t see us ever being allowed to beat them again to that potential £30m+ CL money.

 

[JimmyBuffetloyal]

There are many hidden incidents not mentioned . The tackle on McCausland during the recent Motherwell tie , should have been a red card ,was neither called by the ref nor highlighted by VAR .
I believe that had we been winning or even level at the time ,the Motherwell player would have walked . The ref bottled it because we were behind at that point and he didn't want to make a decision that would have been interpreted by the pro scum media as helping us out .
I see that Roofe's goal against them isn't mentioned at all

 

[Sticky]

Celtc rarely, if ever, get a game changing decision against them that costs them points. You know that, as does everyone else that watches Scottish football.

Sadly the Jocksters that follow other teams in Scotland have the same mantra!

"Penalty to sevco"

 

[deedle]

Despite the Herculean efforts of certain posters to persuade us black is white, the IRP stats show Celtic benefited in relative terms by one decision and Rangers were relatively penalised by three. In a close title race (which most should be) stats like this are significant.

Note that there is still a large amount of subjective wiggle room in terms of decisions like Roofe’s ‘goal’ not being included as an error.

A veil is also cast over incidents that should have been referred to VAR but weren’t, such as a Hibs’ penalty claim against Celtic.

Regardless, all stats available - such as yellow cards/foul, the timing of bookings, etc. - paint the same picture. Referees are applying a different standard to Celtic.

 

[Professor Yaffle]

Well there's a shock said no one

 

[bkerr72]

Yes you can argue we’ve had 0 incorrectly ruled out as decided by a ref and the panel, however.

Roofe’s goal v celtic should have stood

Ref Watch: Kemar Roofe's Rangers goal should have stood in Old Firm defeat, says Dermot Gallagher

The referee has got it absolutely correct on the pitch - its not a foul, says ex-Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher to Kemar Roofes disallowed opener in Rangers loss to Celtic at Ibrox; Rangers also saw early Rabbi Matondo strike ruled out for offside

www.skysports.com

And for the SFA to respond in the manner they did merely highlighted the corruption running through that organisation.

Rangers admit astonishment at SFA response over disallowed goal v Celtic as club condemn abuse of referee

Rangers have confirmed their astonishment at the Scottish FA's response regarding the disallowed goal in the club’s 3-2 defeat to Celtic on Saturday.

www.scotsman.com

However if there was any dubiety over the corruption it was further demonstrated by their attempts to draw squinty lines half an hour after VAR had failed to award us a penalty at Parkhead. To date no one has ever admitted who or why the SFA were providing their own lines, it hadn’t happened before or since.

Dessers goal is very subjective, covered already This was Dermot Gallagher on Sky Ref Watch view

Gallagher felt Beaton was correct to award a penalty for the foul on Silva, as well as not awarding Johnston a second yellow, but he questioned if Cyriel Dessers’ goal should have been ruled out “There’s a lot of time to reset but the referee decides it’s a foul,” he said. “There’s no doubt it’s a foul, but is it part of the attacking phase? “Beaton’s sent to the screen for the third time. The question then is if it’s re-refereeing?”

So two goals disallowed following VAR reviews after the event. However we have had 2 goals wrongly disallowed from referees intent on stopping play where it was shown they were wrong to do so, McCausland at Livingston, yes it’s conveniently overlooked due to the penalty, but also Clancy’s ridiculous decision to blow as Cantwell is scoring.

Clement 'can't understand' Rangers disallowed goal and explains Kevin Clancy row

Philippe Clement has questioned VAR over Kevin Clancy's decision to disallow Todd Cantwell's goal in the win over Dundee

www.footballscotland.co.uk

Why would the McCausland goal be highlighted? Mclean tells the Rangers players at the time there's a push on the Livingston player and that's why he ruled it out. The replays then show an arm on the back of Montano he goes down so that backs up the decision Mclean made and that's it check complete because there's no clear and obvious error made.

Does Montano make a mess of it? He does but VAR can't decide on that. Do you seriously think after saying he's ruled the goal out for a push replays back up the decision that Mclean then goes to the monitor and over turns his original decision?

The Dessers goal was correctly disallowed as well the attacking phase starts with a foul and doesn't end until Dessers puts the ball in the net. Tims don't regain possession or make a pass during that period so therefore it's all classed as the same attacking phase. The tweet is related to an incident in the EPL but it has the IFAB rule on the explanation of the attacking phase.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738312934797787235

Going with that then it was the right decision at the time and again why it's not highlighted as an error.

The panel said previously a penalty should have been awarded at the piggery for the handball but because Sima was offside it would have been over turned. Collum said at the time he didn't think it was handball Crocker confirmed that in the commentary. The offside 30 minutes later was clearly released because they knew the handball should have been given. Had they done the offside at the time then there would be way less noise around it.

All the report does given by the panel confirms that refs and those that use VAR aren't very good which everyone knows cause we see it week in week out.

 

[Thornliebank_Bear]

All the report does given by the panel confirms that refs and those that use VAR aren't very good which everyone knows cause we see it week in week out.

So basically it confirms you were right.

Can you name one game in the last 10 years where we seen the ref having a shocker and some decisions went our way ?

Any game at all it does not have to be a crucial fixture, even v bottom league or cup tie v lower league.

I honestly cant think of any and despite you and your mate on here putting incredible effort into defending the officials there does not seem to be anything for Celtic to moan about either.

 

[Angrybluebear]

Why would the McCausland goal be highlighted? Mclean tells the Rangers players at the time there's a push on the Livingston player and that's why he ruled it out. The replays then show an arm on the back of Montano he goes down so that backs up the decision Mclean made and that's it check complete because there's no clear and obvious error made.

Does Montano make a mess of it? He does but VAR can't decide on that. Do you seriously think after saying he's ruled the goal out for a push replays back up the decision that Mclean then goes to the monitor and over turns his original decision?

The Dessers goal was correctly disallowed as well the attacking phase starts with a foul and doesn't end until Dessers puts the ball in the net. Tims don't regain possession or make a pass during that period so therefore it's all classed as the same attacking phase. The tweet is related to an incident in the EPL but it has the IFAB rule on the explanation of the attacking phase.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1738312934797787235

Going with that then it was the right decision at the time and again why it's not highlighted as an error.

The panel said previously a penalty should have been awarded at the piggery for the handball but because Sima was offside it would have been over turned. Collum said at the time he didn't think it was handball Crocker confirmed that in the commentary. The offside 30 minutes later was clearly released because they knew the handball should have been given. Had they done the offside at the time then there would be way less noise around it.

All the report does given by the panel confirms that refs and those that use VAR aren't very good which everyone knows cause we see it week in week out.

What are you on about, this is exactly what VAR was brought in for.

The referee let play continue till the ball was in the net, then decided there was a foul (remember what happened with both Roofe and Dessers goals ruled out v celtic). VAR should have looked at the incident and asked the referee to look at his decision on the monitor. It was a refereeing mistake compounded by VAR.

Ross McCausland goal controversially denied

Ross McCausland has a goal controversially denied on the stroke of half time.

www.skysports.com

Referee Steve McLean denied McCausland, the 20-year-old, his first Rangers goal at the close of the first half for a soft push by Abdallah Sima in the build-up. "I don't think it's a foul and the goal should stand. It's a brilliant finish," said Sky Sports pundit James McFadden

Livingston 0-2 Rangers: Phillipe Clement extends unbeaten run to seven games on busy day for VAR

Report as Rangers keep the pressure on Celtic at the top of the Scottish Premiership with their fifth consecutive win under Phillipe Clement; James Tavernier missed and scored a penalty either side of Cyriel Dessers first-half goal as VAR had a busy day at the Tony Macaroni Arena

www.skysports.com

McCausland disallowed goal​

Boyd said in the Sky Sports studio: "I'm not quite sure, to be honest. What I will say it's a fantastic finish from McCausland.

"If you want to go back for a foul, De Lucas has got a hold of Sima's shirt right there. Sima is absolutely nowhere near Montano at that moment. Yes, he does push him after that. But if you want to go back, then it should be a penalty to Rangers. It should be a goal."

It's tough to disagree with the former Rangers and Kilmarnock striker. There seemed to be very little, or nothing at all, in Sima's incident with Montano. It's quite difficult to see why VAR hasn't assisted McLean, who awarded the foul on the field, to review the situation. Perhaps they didn't feel it was a 'clear and obvious' error.

Verdict: Incorrect decision

 

[bkerr72]

What are you on about, this is exactly what VAR was brought in for.

The referee let play continue till the ball was in the net, then decided there was a foul (remember what happened with both Roofe and Dessers goals ruled out v celtic). VAR should have looked at the incident and asked the referee to look at his decision on the monitor. It was a refereeing mistake compounded by VAR.

Ross McCausland goal controversially denied

Ross McCausland has a goal controversially denied on the stroke of half time.

www.skysports.com

Referee Steve McLean denied McCausland, the 20-year-old, his first Rangers goal at the close of the first half for a soft push by Abdallah Sima in the build-up. "I don't think it's a foul and the goal should stand. It's a brilliant finish," said Sky Sports pundit James McFadden

Livingston 0-2 Rangers: Phillipe Clement extends unbeaten run to seven games on busy day for VAR

Report as Rangers keep the pressure on Celtic at the top of the Scottish Premiership with their fifth consecutive win under Phillipe Clement; James Tavernier missed and scored a penalty either side of Cyriel Dessers first-half goal as VAR had a busy day at the Tony Macaroni Arena

www.skysports.com

McCausland disallowed goal​

Boyd said in the Sky Sports studio: "I'm not quite sure, to be honest. What I will say it's a fantastic finish from McCausland.

"If you want to go back for a foul, De Lucas has got a hold of Sima's shirt right there. Sima is absolutely nowhere near Montano at that moment. Yes, he does push him after that. But if you want to go back, then it should be a penalty to Rangers. It should be a goal."

It's tough to disagree with the former Rangers and Kilmarnock striker. There seemed to be very little, or nothing at all, in Sima's incident with Montano. It's quite difficult to see why VAR hasn't assisted McLean, who awarded the foul on the field, to review the situation. Perhaps they didn't feel it was a 'clear and obvious' error.

Verdict: Incorrect decision

VAR did look at that goal the game was delayed due to it. As the article says they clearly don't think it was clear and obvious because the replays show the hand on the back of Montano and he goes down. Mclean tells the Rangers players there's a push do you think he changes his decision if he views it again?

 

[Gascoigne87]

The games in which we've been on the end of mistaken decisions, haven't cost us points either...

The argument could actually be, they HAVE been on the end of a game changing decision that cost them points - the Hearts game at Tynecastle

They also haven't been on the end of a mistaken decision that has gifted them points...

So not sure what your point is really... you want referees to make more mistakes and them to be on the end of them?

Think you are on the wind up.

 

[Angrybluebear]

VAR did look at that goal the game was delayed due to it. As the article says they clearly don't think it was clear and obvious because the replays show the hand on the back of Montano and he goes down. Mclean tells the Rangers players there's a push do you think he changes his decision if he views it again?

What the article said Perhaps they didn't feel it was a 'clear and obvious' error.

Very subjective.

That is where the audio should be readily available. Another poster mentioned before about an official leaving a decision up to a more “senior” official. That certainly is obvious throughout our games, decisions not being given or flagged for review because a less experienced official doesn’t want to upset the referee.

 

[Jeff Portnoy]

This can be the difference in winning the title.

 

[bkerr72]

What the article said Perhaps they didn't feel it was a 'clear and obvious' error.

Very subjective.

That is where the audio should be readily available. Another poster mentioned before about an official leaving a decision up to a more “senior” official. That certainly is obvious throughout our games, decisions not being given or flagged for review because a less experienced official doesn’t want to upset the referee.

If that's your opinion then fair enough but you want VAR to re-referee that situation which they can't do. Mclean tells whoever is on VAR and the Rangers players there's a push on Montano replays show the arm on Montano which causes him to go down in your opinion does Mclean reverse his decision if he's told to view it again?

 

[EddiBrock]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785680385570939264

His premise is faulty "we can all now agree VAR isn't working".

The point of VAR is not to be 100% correct. This is not the threshold for tolerance in any other aspect of decision making. The point of VAR is to ensure there are less wrong decisions than there are without VAR. You would need to compare the total number of correct decisions through use of VAR compared to without VAR to be able to determine "VAR is not working". Its a ridiculous argument this "tweeter" has made.

 

[EddiBrock]

Well, I'd argue that the penalty that went against them at Tynecastle, just before half time at 0-0, in a game they went on to lose 2-0 would probably qualify

A correct decision according to the clearly written and published laws of the game does not count as a "game changing decision against them".

 

[EddiBrock]

Would also add the Silva penalty in the last game against them as a game changing decision.

People here are referring to wrong decisions awarded against a club.

Not correctly awarded decisions that don't go for a club.

 

[EddiBrock]

1 - against Hearts where they lost 2-0, it's been detailed by the report

We've had 2, and we won both games...

What decision was wrong against Celtic in that game?

The oen Celtic received was wrong. Every other major decision was correct according to the laws of football.

 

[EddiBrock]

The games in which we've been on the end of mistaken decisions, haven't cost us points either...

The argument could actually be, they HAVE been on the end of a game changing decision that cost them points - the Hearts game at Tynecastle

Wow. You're actually ridiculous.

 

[EddiBrock]

They would have held out to halftime at 0-0 with 10 men if it hadn't been for an incorrectly awarded penalty

Go learn the rules of the game

You're all over the shop

 

[EddiBrock]

Going with the thread title was the penalty against Hearts the wrong decision?
Referee's in Scotland have been pretty consistent in giving handball in this type of situation.
Unlike the penalty they got in the same game that most of sound mind would agree was not a penalty.
I could have put it better but. When was the last time an incorrect game changing decision went against them ?

As I said marking their own homework and being subjective with what they highlight.

Celtic were awarded a pen for Kyogo diving in between defender and ball then going to ground when defender struck him just weeks after Roofe did essentially an identical thing to win possession and set up Dessers goal in the first Old Firm

This goal being chalked off was not included in these VAR mistakes

So the numbers produced by this "independent" panel are likely even worse against us

 

[EddiBrock]

Club should be highlighting this. The scum have one incident and the media turned it into a huge talking point, Brenda called out a ref and received a paltry one game touchline ban.
The dignified silence has never worked.

And said incident was correct

They created an all mighty shit storm because Celtic and Greig ignore the IFAB rules as they exist right now

 

[EddiBrock]

The problem is, as I said at the time, it'd stand in England

The PGMOL have a different interpretation to the vast majority with regards to APP and reset of play

It'd have been ruled out in Europe I suspect, as they use the IFAB definition, which is what Scotland appear to use

Therefore matters get confused, because Sky sometimes seem to think that football starts and ends in England

But as the VAR protocol is, and as much as I disagree and think it should be a new APP, it just isn't - and it was correctly ruled out

If you're gonna quote letter of the law IFAB stop pretending the Hearts pen was wrong.

Your arguments lack consistency to push a narrative

It's embarrassing to view the gymnastics on display

 

[MrStruth]

Our manager and board should be all over this. You just know if it was the other way around the scum would be using it as proof of an agenda against them.

 

[jimbear]

Wonder how many of the wrong decisions against other teams involved Celt*c ?

Two of our 'wrong' decisions hve come in our games at Ibrox against them. I am being charitable and not including the blatant handball they got away with in January at Parkhead.

 

[GreigC]

If you're gonna quote letter of the law IFAB stop pretending the Hearts pen was wrong.

Your arguments lack consistency to push a narrative

It's embarrassing to view the gymnastics on display

Thread is about the var panel

Var panel also said hearts penalty was wrong…

 

[Angrybluebear]

Thread is about the var panel

Var panel also said hearts penalty was wrong…

I think there needs more transparency between the Appeals Panel and the independent VAR panel.

I know McCoist got in to trouble for asking the names of an appeals panel but how can you have one panel looking at an incident for an appeal and throwing it out but then VAR panel confirm the original decision was in fact wrong.

 

[EddiBrock]

I think there needs more transparency between the Appeals Panel and the independent VAR panel.

I know McCoist got in to trouble for asking the names of an appeals panel but how can you have one panel looking at an incident for an appeal and throwing it out but then VAR panel confirm the original decision was in fact wrong.

Just taking the data and word of this independent review panel at face value when we know they don't include the goal wrongly chalked off in the first old firm shows it is a farce and basically obliterates all ot GreigC arguments before he started because all he falls back to when it suits him is "that's what this report says". But we know for absolute certain the report misses many incidents that unfairly hinder us or assist Celtic.

Whilst the numbers are damning, they also undersell the true scale of the problem.

How this links to your post? At some point one of these higher authorities reviewing decisions needs to be honest. Otherwise you can send it further up the chain but the problem will never be adequately addressed.

 

[bkerr72]

Just taking the data and word of this independent review panel at face value when we know they don't include the goal wrongly chalked off in the first old firm shows it is a farce and basically obliterates all ot GreigC arguments before he started because all he falls back to when it suits him is "that's what this report says". But we know for absolute certain the report misses many incidents that unfairly hinder us or assist Celtic.

Whilst the numbers are damning, they also undersell the true scale of the problem.

How this links to your post? At some point one of these higher authorities reviewing decisions needs to be honest. Otherwise you can send it further up the chain but the problem will never be adequately addressed.

McFadden said on Sunday the review panel don't look at every VAR incident that's been referred to a VAR they select a certain number of them and then they review them.

 

[dereksmallsloyal]

The overriding point for me is not that we’ve had incorrect VAR calls - which in itself is a problem and material to the league position - but the fact that WITHOUT VAR correctly intervening, we’d have 13 less penalties and would presumably be miles behind the filth.

If we remove VAR, we’ll be absolutely done for as referees are petrified to give us decisions without it. And that’s why Doncaster and his handlers are making noises.

 

[Arcadian]

Aye, but but but...penalty to Rangers, eh?

 

[Meiklejohn]

Other than Matondos goal in the last game every goal we’ve scored against them has been subject to a VAR check since it was introduced.

That simply isn’t right. You’ve officials looking to knock off our goals and using all means at their disposable to stop Rangers beating them to the title.

Why haven’t the club commented on this in the lead up to the weekend ?

If the show was on the other foot they’d be screaming about it. This is why people have little time for Bisgrove or Bennett.

 

[Del]

Other than Matondos goal in the last game every goal we’ve scored against them has been subject to a VAR check since it was introduced.

That simply isn’t right. You’ve officials looking to knock off our goals and using all means at their disposable to stop Rangers beating them to the title.

Why haven’t the club commented on this in the lead up to the weekend ?

If the show was on the other foot they’d be screaming about it. This is why people have little time for Bisgrove or Bennett.

Every goal, no matter the team, is subject to a VAR check.

The point I think you might be making is some are checked more than others.

 

[bkerr72]

Every goal, no matter the team, is subject to a VAR check.

The point I think you might be making is some are checked more than others.

That will always be the case though for things like like offside from memory Cantwell and Sakala in the 3-0 win. 2 of Tav's penalties and the 2 free kicks he's scored at the Piggery wouldn't be checked nor would Kent or Souttar either.

The 3 that we've had disallowed by VAR for me only Roofe has been contentious. The Alfie one was never being overturned under clear and obvious error and the Dessers one under the law for attacking phase was right. To expect Bennett or Bisgrove to publicly come out shouting from the roof tops about why are goals checked by VAR when it's part of the process as you say is bonkers.

 

[EddiBrock]

The overriding point for me is not that we’ve had incorrect VAR calls - which in itself is a problem and material to the league position - but the fact that WITHOUT VAR correctly intervening, we’d have 13 less penalties and would presumably be miles behind the filth.

If we remove VAR, we’ll be absolutely done for as referees are petrified to give us decisions without it. And that’s why Doncaster and his handlers are making noises.

Agree. A huge point many of our own miss when attacking var

 

[ICA_86]

Imagine we had a club with the balls to use this and pressure referees in the week before a big Old Firm game.

Nah - instead, we’ll not say a fucking word about it.

Dignified silence.

 

[Allovereurope]

Well for a start, the VAR panel that we're talking about have determined that

a) the Roofe goal wasn't incorrect
b) the non-penalty award whilst incorrect, still wouldn't have seen a penalty awarded
c) Also wasn't incorrect

So, its not me categorically stating anything... its the VAR Independent Review Panel

I dug the answers out with relation to the 7 errors that have been attributed to our games

In the games mistakes went against is, it was:
Clancy and Kirkland
Robertson and Aitken
Walsh and Collum
Dickinson and Dallas
Beaton and Dallas

In the mistakes that went for us, it was:
Clancy and Kirkland (same game)
McLean and Kirkland

In all of those, Aitken is entirely blameless as he recommended a review that Robertson ignored

I can't really be bothered breaking down the other 17 decisions, we know it was Robertson and Beaton for the 2 in the game at Tynecastle

Ripping out you.

 

[Manfromdelmonte]

Incorrect VAR decisions against for the season according to the IRP:

Rangers 5
St Mirren 4
Dundee 4
Hearts 4
Hibs 2
Livingston 2
Aberdeen 2
St Johnstone 1
Motherwell 1
Celtic 1
Kilmarnock 0
Ross County 0

Interesting statistics considering all VAR does is apparently cheat in our favour and against the filth.

It’s nothing that most of our support don’t already know when it comes to being robbed by officials, but it just goes to show that the filths control over the narrative sways the rest of Scottish footballs opinions to somehow think all the officials work in our favour.

The reality is massively different.

And the Rangers PR man said .......






Hee haw

 

[Angrybluebear]

The Club should be calling for an independent review in to ALL decisions considered and ignored by VAR this season.

Then let’s just see what that table would look like.