A Magician Named Gob
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And how did they by and large feel when we were under that threat?
Fuck them all.
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And how did they by and large feel when we were under that threat?
Fuck them all.
A Magician Named Gob
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There are about 12 clubs in the greater Glasgow area. It's diluted the quality of teams in our league and lets more people play at a higher level than they should be playing it in the top flight leagues. And that's before factoring in the further saturation of resources when you include the juniors.
150EdmistonDrive
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First and foremost he talks total sense. Removes any doubt as to what to do next, but the authorities will stumble on and create mayhem for all just to appease one club. He should be heading up the SFA.
LJ50
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This.
I was always of the view that we should do away with a number of clubs in Scotland. Merge them. Close them. Whatever. Until I nearly lose my club. Now, my opinion is very different. We need to restructure the leagues, but it’s up to the clubs to decide if they continue in that new structure.
iaatpies
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No it hasnt.
Queens Park don't dilute the quality of Thistle. Thistle don't dilute the quality of Rangers.
Serious question - if Rangers had folded for good, would you have found another Scottish team to follow or would you have walked away from football completely?
Rangers and Celtic do not deserve better than Albion Rovers or Forfar.
davidab157
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He's right there's nothing that can be done imo other than voiding it all. It's small clubs like them I feel sorry for as well.
A Magician Named Gob
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We would have had the resources and support to start them back up again. It's a pointless hypothetical question but even so, Rangers would be able to form a phoenix club precisely because we're better supported than those teams. Forfar is a terrible example as well when there's 4 top flight teams for about 40,000 people in that region. If other leagues worldwide had a similar number of teams per population, would they not be in the hundreds or not far off it?
Cuellar
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I go to q
I go to quite a few Stenhousemuir games and they are a great wee community club. They have one of the biggest budgets in league 2 but this is going to hurt them. Hope I am wrong though
I go to quite a few Stenhousemuir games and they are a great wee community club. They have one of the biggest budgets in league 2 but this is going to hurt them. Hope I am wrong though
JR Ewing
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Try and tell that to the genuine hardcore fans of the likes of Cowdenbeath, Montrose and the likes. There's no less passion amongst them than there is amongst our own.
Mexi
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Too many small teams dilutes the quality, which affects attendance, sponsorship, revenue...
Put Rangers in a British league. What would attendance be like if we had a bigger stadium?
Never seen it but I assume it was big MH?
If so yes he's a gent, Brother and True Blue.
Wugs
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Sir Sasa Papac
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I have a niggling feeling the SFA will give Celtic the title and increase the league to 16 teams to get round the Dundee United / Hearts problem. Wouldn’t put anything past them
They're the bastards that demoted us to the lowest league when trying to kill us never forget the scumbags .Any decisions should be taken out of their claws
Sir Sasa Papac
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It’s a perfectly fair point though and these clubs won’t go willingly. As long as you’ve got the Alloa chairman second in charge of Scottish football you can’t expect them to do what’s right or sensible. Our football is part time from half way down the Championship. There is literally no need for these teams to play in a PROFESSIONAL league structure.
iaatpies
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Not a comparable scenario.
Rangers and Celtic draw more fans than the rest of Scottish football combined. It's massively skewed. The number of clubs doesnt matter - could be a single league of 12 or the current set up of 42. Fans support who they support and if 30 Scottish clubs closed then those fans wouldn't suddenly start following one of the remaining 12.
Rangers move south? There's every chance that the club could flourish. It's equally possible that Rangers would become an also ran like Newcastle, Everton or Aston Villa. The determining factors would be TV money, sponsorship money and international marketing. The number of teams wouldn't matter a jot.
The number of teams playing in Scotland does not affect the quality of football. What affects the quality of football is the quality of player. That isnt going to suddenly improve by having less teams and fewer people following Scottish football clubs.
iaatpies
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Why is there no need for them to be part of the professional league structure?
Just because the majority of Scottish clubs are part time, doesnt mean that they shouldn't remain professional.
huistra23
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Or an annual cultural visit to Belfast,every year
This is defiantly the way to do it, but is far too sensible for those who run football in this country.
iaatpies
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Would a phoenix club have been given access to Scottish football? Would it have been expected to start in the lowland league?
The OF support skews Scottish football. It isnt healthy for so many people to follow 2 clubs. Scottish football can't do anything about that. People support who they support. Overall not enough people in Scotland attend games on a regular basis. Thats the real issue. We need more people to start following their local football team.
Absolutely, they will try and do everything in their power to give them the title.
Sir Sasa Papac
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Why shouldn’t they? Because the tail should never wag the dug.
They aren’t professional, you can’t be a part time professional can you? These players are professional plumbers who play football twice a week in the evenings with a game at the weekend.
There’s clubs in the Juniors who get more crowd that 30% of our ‘Proffesional’ teams and their players are earning considerably more.
Why don’t you go and ask the English FA why they haven’t got someone from League 2 as second in commaand of their footballing board? Or ask the Spanish league why the Chairman of Tenerife FC isn’t dictating to Barca and Real how the game should be run?
Seems to me like the answer to why is the Chairman of Alloa the vice chairman of the SFA is pretty damn obvious
Bottom line is that this is time for league reconstruction. Historically the other SPFL clubs voted against this but in more recent times most other Top Tier teams (other than now St Johnstone) only give the Old Firm one part of the ground and we often have empty stands as we play these teams. Not quite sure of all the options but instead of playing each other 4 times we could increase from 12 to 16 teams and just play home and away. Call the current league campaign null and void but keep the current 12 and add 4. Removes the complications over relegation, play offs and promotion. Only team that wouldn't like it would be....
Sir Sasa Papac
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18 teams with everyone playing each other twice Otherwise there’s nowhere near enough games, even with 18 that’s 4 less games than now
Sir Sasa Papac
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Rangers and Celtic are the local team to over a million people. The likes of the fife teams are probably exceeding realistic attendances as it is, the idea they could find more is unrealistic
iaatpies
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Yes you can.
Grigo Yossarian
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Im not sure it will be decided within this country mate ? Can’t help thinking now that UEFA will make a call for the member states.
Grigo Yossarian
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9 Paedophiles per Alex Thomson ?
iaatpies
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Sir Sasa Papac
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What does your pal do for a living?
He’s a professional footballer but he’s just nipping off to do 8 hours on a building site before he does an hours ‘professional, training tonight. Then it’s four more shifts and on the building site until he plays his next ‘professional‘ game
Aye mate, very good
Grigo Yossarian
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Europe qualifiers ?
Play Off Teams ?
They’d be getting into very dangerous territory if you consider every scottish league.
Sir Sasa Papac
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Local residents of Glasgow aye? But somehow their local teams can’t come from Glasgow?
You‘re having a nightmare here
Sir Sasa Papac
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Anyway, funny how you’re no addressing any of my other points. Namely the board and FA structures of Europe’s leagues and how none of them have part time second division chairmen running them?
Don't have a problem with that. Also don't have a problem with less games...we should assume we will have a Europa run and not get into chaos due to succes.
Sir Sasa Papac
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I agree less games wouldnt be a bad thing overall but without 8 old firm games a year I can’t see how teams could sustain that AND 4 less games total.
How many voted for our demise in the name of sporting integrity?
the_baron
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There are a fair few clubs in Scotland who operate very much on a month to month basis and have no cash reserves to survive having to pay wages without ticket revenue.
Many of them will also take advantage of the summer months to operate with a reduced squad to save cash and bring players in closer to the season starting. Asking them to extend contracts for a month or so is even more financial strain.
Many of them will also take advantage of the summer months to operate with a reduced squad to save cash and bring players in closer to the season starting. Asking them to extend contracts for a month or so is even more financial strain.
I've often felt the real solution in scottish football was to reduce the number of clubs, those folding could find themselves being amalgamated with local rivals to form stronger clubs over-all. would rather there be say... 18-22 stronger clubs dotted around the country than what we have
When we were young
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Declare season 2019/20 null amnd void.
Start season 2020/21 with all leagues as they were at end of 2018/19 season.
Start season 2020/21 with all leagues as they were at end of 2018/19 season.
Grigo Yossarian
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Who would qualify for the euro places ?
A1bertz
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Which is why there will need to be a European wide decision. There can't be shitty little countries wanting to do their own thing.
Null and void thus allowing all clubs in all countries to be ready to move when needed in unison.
iaatpies
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If they get paid a wage for playing football under a contract of employment then they're professional.
Sir Sasa Papac
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Re
It’s like a game getting abandoned IMO, you don’t carry on, you restart the whole game
You would reset as if we haven’t kicked a ball this season so Killie Aberdeen us and them
It’s like a game getting abandoned IMO, you don’t carry on, you restart the whole game
iaatpies
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They wouldn't be stronger. You'd end up with more clubs like Caley Thistle - hated in their areas by people who used to support the separate teams. Football fans don't follow merged clubs. They walk away from football completely.
