Big-money sales led to Rangers sacking Gio, says No. 2 Vos

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FROM TONIGHTS EVENING TIMES

DAVE VOS joined a jubilant Giovanni van Bronckhorst on the pitch at Philips Stadium, having helped mastermind a two-legged win over Dutch giants PSV and author another magical European journey.

Privately, however, the former Rangers assistant and his boss knew this could also be a blessing in disguise depending on circumstances. The squad they’d taken to Seville and past PSV in that 2021 Champions League qualifying playoff was not yet ready to compete at the elite level of European football while fighting on multiple fronts domestically. No further transfer additions were made following the 1-0 win in Eindhoven and a painful group stage was on the horizon.

“I think if the recruitment was a bit better to bring in some players we thought were a direct possibility to sign, it would have increased our chance to be successful in the way we wanted to play,” Vos says.

“If you ask me honestly, I don’t think we would have played that differently in the Champions League. Napoli were champions of Italy that year, Liverpool were Liverpool and Ajax had won six out of six in the Champions League group stage the season before. Rangers as a football club weren’t ready to play first or second place in the Champions League group. But we were building towards that and I think with time, if we had a year longer, we could’ve developed in that direction.”

The start made by Van Bronckhorst kept Rangers firmly at the top of the Scottish Premiership heading into the winter break with eight wins from eight. Even if there were growing pains as a change in playing style ensued.

“It was a great group of players, but it isn’t your own group. Of course, because of [Steven] Gerrard and everything that happened there, it was the players he chose. We needed to work with everybody who was there,” Vos continues.

“You felt a connection from players and staff and support staff directly. The integration was really fast and we won the first eight or nine games in a row.

“That helps the process of how you want to play but we had our own details that were different from the former coaching staff. I remember that we were due to play the Old Firm on the 29 December [before the winter break was brought forward].

For us, in that moment we had a real flow and Celtic didn’t. There was a gap of five points or so. When I look back if we had played that game against Celtic in December we were in a much better position because of how many points we could’ve gone ahead.”

Although Rangers lost hold of the league title in season 2021/22, they so nearly grasped a trophy of far greater value. The Europa League trophy was penalties away from returning to Ibrox as a run masterminded by Van Bronckhorst and Vos allowed Ibrox to dream over an intoxicating threemonth spell.

Rangers saw off Borussia Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Braga and Red Star Belgrade to set up a final with Eintracht Frankfurt in Seville. With their aggressive approach borne out of a 3-0 Old Firm defeat soon after the winter break. Attempts to explain the magic often fall short, but the simplicity of Vos’s sentence captures the essence.

“Ibrox? You cannot explain everything that happened [on those nights] to somebody who was not there. I told my friends you have to come over. I can tell you about it, but you need to feel it,” he says.

“One of the most important parts [of the European run] came after the first Old Firm we lost. We were too ‘in the middle’ of the pitch and not pressing opponents all over the pitch. From that moment we made a decision together – we will press the opponent all the way.

“When we played Dortmund away, you can make two decisions. You can drop into a block and counter attack but we made a decision together, and from Gio it was a really brave one, to just press the opposition high.”

The most memorable night of all came against RB Leipzig as a 3-1 win sent Van Bronckhorst’s side to Seville. The game came two days on from the shock passing of Jimmy Bell, Rangers’ legendary kitman and club figure. In an emotionally charged stadium goals from James Tavernier, Glen Kamara and John Lundstram sealed a piece of history.
 
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“During the whole run we knew in every game if we could come back with a result to Ibrox then anything is possible,” Vos adds.

“I still have goosebumps from Leipzig. It was one of the most unbelievable experiences I’ve ever had on the pitch. Everyone felt we needed to do it for him and Jimmy’s family. It was an unbelievable experience. I still get all the clips in my head. Ibrox was bouncing.”

That rearranged 3-0 Old Firm defeat, which followed dropped points against Aberdeen and Ross County in the early weeks of 2022, would ultimately cost Rangers the title. Something they still, two years on, have been unable to regain. The gap inherited from Gerrard at the top of the Scottish Premiership would begin to evaporate.

Rangers still ended the 2021/22 campaign with a Scottish Cup triumph and an impressive win in the Old Firm semi-final at Hampden, following two significant defeats against Ange Postecoglou’s side in the league. When they saw off PSV over two legs to achieve another minor miracle on the continent the optimism carried into the 2022/23 season, despite surrendering the league title, appeared vindicated. But then, in the space of a week at the start of September, Rangers lost 4-0 to Ajax and Celtic. It was a four-day period Van Bronckhorst would never recover from and for many watching from the outside, the byproduct of a summer transfer window that failed to take Rangers forward.

“I think you are right,” Vos says when asked if he felt more could’ve been done in the summer window to strengthen the squad – especially after Champions League football was secured.

“The next season for me, the outcome of the transfer window wasn’t what we had hoped for. If we had won in Seville we’d have gone directly into the Champions League group stage as a pot one team. That would’ve meant something for the group but also in terms of getting new players in.

“Now we had to deal with the Champions League. We had a big run to reach the group stage. Everyone knew that USG were really good and PSV are a really strong opponent. The fact that we managed to get into the group stage was unbelievable. At that moment Gio and I said together ‘Ok, this could be something great to play in the Champions League’ – but in the end, we struggled.

“If you looked at the financial situation of the club, the whole squad was bought for around £18m – we played the Champions League and Europa League final with that squad.”

Calvin Bassey, who Van Bronckhorst inherited as a back-up left-back, was sold to Ajax for north of £20m in the summer of 2022 following his meteoric rise as a centre-back in that Europa League campaign. Joe Aribo, who scored in the final, also departed for Southampton. Vos holds those two players as key examples of figures who weren’t replaced in time for that tumultuous start to the season, both in terms of quality and durability.

“Calvin [Bassey] played a massive part in everything we did,” he emphasises. “If you want to press up high all over the pitch like we did, Calvin had a central role. It was only possible to play like we did because of him.

“We wanted Ian Maatsen really badly who is now in the Champions League final with Dortmund. We wanted a couple of those players who you know can fit into the style of football you want to play.

“Overall our squad lacked depth and struggled with injuries. I think VOS’S tone is tinged with no malice but simply regret. As aforementioned Rangers’ Champions League group was unforgiving, their injury list seismic and schedule relentless. The former assistant insists that the team still intended to approach games in the same manner as the season before during all those memorable European victories but lacked the athleticism and depth to do so. No game epitomised his point like the 7-1 defeat at home to Liverpool. Rangers took the lead and started the game well but after losing Connor Goldson to a costly injury, things quite literally fell apart. That was a microcosm of the start of the season.

“Normally if you play in the Champions League you have a week off between games but because of the World Cup our games were every midweek,” he explains.

“Players like Connor were used to playing 60 games. Joe Aribo had played in something like 66 matches the season before. When players like Joe and Calvin left us it was really important to get new players in. Tom Lawrence’s injury was really, really significant for us in that sense.

“We saw the intensity and quality of the Champions League was too early for the team we had. We still wanted to do the same things and I think at Ibrox we played really well against Napoli, the first half against Liverpool was unbelievable. In parts of the game we did really well but if you see the level of the opponent it is these small details that are so important.”

Domestically, Van Bronckhorst’s football was never able to energise and excite like a Thursday night. How was it that in the same fortnight, Rangers defeated Borussia Dortmund 6-4 on aggregate they also dropped points against Motherwell and Dundee United?

“There is a big difference domestically playing every time against a low block,” Vos reasons.

“We missed Tom [Lawrence]. The games against PSV we had [Malik] Tillman and Tom at No.10 and width coming from the wingers. The squad missed creativity on the right- wing to defeat a low block too.

“We struggled domestically in small spaces. If you play in Europe or against bigger teams, they want to play as well. The game’s intensity suited us but domestically when everyone was dropping down playing for set-pieces, counter attacks…we struggled with that.

“Given the results, pressure came on the board. I still felt really connected, at that time the connection was still there with the players. Unfortunately, they made a decision and still, I think it was way too early. If you look at the results we didn’t do well in the Champions League but all those things were connected [to injuries and the summer window]. It was a privilege to be at Rangers and be part of the journey. Ibrox is something unbelievable. For me [the decision to sack Van Bronckhorst] felt too early.”
 
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Comments from Gerrard and Gio camps that recruitment was disappointing.

Are we properly setting expectations with our managers?
Gio got sacked because he was losing games in SPFL in his 2nd season. Voss admits in the article that they had a team suited to Europe but it struggled to break down low block against SPFL teams.
We need a team that can win the league Europe is a bonus
 
I think most of that is really fair from him tbh.

But Gio was 9 points behind Celtic by November after blowing a 6 point lead the season before. That's always going to end a Rangers manager. Rightly or wrongly, everything is a competition with them. That's the unique thing about Scottish football and why it's really important to get the measure of Old Firm games asap. Phil now needs to hurry up with that as well.
 
Gio got sacked because he was losing games in SPFL in his 2nd season. Voss admits in the article that they had a team suited to Europe but it struggled to break down low block against SPFL teams.
We need a team that can win the league Europe is a bonus


In his last 10 league matches that got him the sack GvB had 6 wins 2 draws 2 defeats. 20 points. Beale had 6 wins 1 draw 3 defeats, 19 points. Clement has had 4 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats 15 points.

He was also undefeated in domestic cup matches.
 
Had Gio been backed to the level others have, he'd still be here and we'd be in a better place than we are now I suspect. Getting rid of him having not backed him at all and selling some some key players then giving that money to the charlatan Beale was criminal.

The football wasn't good on the eye but he wasn't backed to bring in any of the players needed and forced to shop in the bargain basement.

The jury is still out on Clement for me, hopefully he can build though.
 
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Gio got sacked because he was losing games in SPFL in his 2nd season. Voss admits in the article that they had a team suited to Europe but it struggled to break down low block against SPFL teams.
We need a team that can win the league Europe is a bonus


In his last 10 league matches that got him the sack GvB had 6 wins 2 draws 2 defeats. 20 points. Beale had 6 wins 1 draw 3 defeats, 19 points. Clement has had 4 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats 15 points.

He was also undefeated in domestic cup matches.
 
In his last 10 league matches that got him the sack GvB had 6 wins 2 draws 2 defeats. 20 points. Beale had 6 wins 1 draw 3 defeats, 19 points. Clement has had 4 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats 15 points.

He was also undefeated in domestic cup matches.

Inside 10 months he collected nineteen less points than Celtic in the league when he was starting from a position of six points clear, failed to beat them in the league & suffered two brutal pastings at the hands of them, the second one considerably worse than the first one.

There was a 10 point swing in his first six months. We were then 9 behind them by November when he was sacked.

He needed to go. We weren't winning the league with him.

Not getting on board with the revisionism being spun. Maybe if Gio was a bit more forceful and demanding then he'd have got what he wanted. The fact he went along with it just tells me the guy wasn't cut out to be our manager long term.
 
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In his last 10 league matches that got him the sack GvB had 6 wins 2 draws 2 defeats. 20 points. Beale had 6 wins 1 draw 3 defeats, 19 points. Clement has had 4 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats 15 points.

He was also undefeated in domestic cup matches.
Clement gets leeway because of the ridiculous injury situation, for now.

That form can't continue into next season though, and he seriously needs to start showing us something different in old firm games.
 
That fixture manipulation was Sturgeons fault with zero evidence it was required. Witch.

Agree with most of what else he is saying there. Looks like they wanted other targets and couldn't get them in for various reasons.

Basseys pace and power was a huge loss and still hasn't been replaced.
 
I was glad we sacked GvB at the time.

On reflection now, I think we did sack GvB too early. He should have got the season. The issue was and still is that the players aren’t good enough and we need a proper rebuild.

The Beale era was a disaster on a number of fronts. The reality is that the board failed to back the manager by finding the finance to do that. We’ve since jumped from manager to manager and again we find ourselves at a cross roads in needing good decision making in recruitment and appropriate backing to turn this shit show around.
 
I'd really like to know if the failure to recruit post-CL qualification was down to FFP constraints (wages v turnover), cashflow issues (CL money is received after the group stage completes, I think) or simply the board deciding to stick.

GVB certainly gave the impression he thought he'd have a transfer budget in the PSV post-match interview, so what happened?
 
That fixture manipulation was Sturgeons fault with zero evidence it was required. Witch.

Agree with most of what else he is saying there. Looks like they wanted other targets and couldn't get them in for various reasons.

Basseys pace and power was a huge loss and still hasn't been replaced.
Spot on. Didn't the beggars drop points against st mirren on boxing day before it was all delayed.

Then they sign players for the first team. 1nof whom scored 2 in the rescheduled OF game
 
The fixture manipulation was a sliding doors moment, but Gio should have used the winter break better. He introduced the horseshoe when we should have been taking the initiative.

His pre-season was a shambles too, which looks like the root cause of all these injuries.

However, history will be kind to him and he should have been backed a lot better than he was by Wilson and Robertson. The signings in the January window were not good enough and the summer window a complete shambles.

The board then facilitating Beale doing a snide move on him really was a poor state of affairs.
 
Spot on. Didn't the beggars drop points against st mirren on boxing day before it was all delayed.

Then they sign players for the first team. 1nof whom scored 2 in the rescheduled OF game

Waant boxing day but the drew 0-0 and had horrendous amount of injuries. Bain was in goal, raslton, Welsh and scales in defence amongst other notable absentees.

An absolute scandal that game was moved.
 
Waant boxing day but the drew 0-0 and had horrendous amount of injuries. Bain was in goal, raslton, Welsh and scales in defence amongst other notable absentees.

An absolute scandal that game was moved.
Yeah, your right. Think st mirren was our game on boxing day with crowds capped. They must have drew with the Tim's just before xmas
 
Our recruitment after the EL final was shambolic, we had decent money to spend after the Bassey sale and brought in players not physically capable of playing in our league

No we didn’t. At that point we were under a FFP warning. The Bassey money didn’t reflect until the following set of accounts which allowed Beale a bit more to spend the following summer.
 
What got gio sacked was horrific subservient withdrawn tactics domestically and a complete contrast to this high press we employed so successfully the year before in Europe.
 
History will be kind to Gio but if you can’t beat the league dross then you shouldn’t be Rangers manager. It is clear though he was let down by the board and for some reason wasn’t trusted with the same funds that Beale was. I remember the excitement for everyone when we best PSV thinking who would we be signing, to not strengthen after that was massively deflating

Also find it interesting he’s talking about the positive culture at the training ground etc when all the chat at the time was Gio lost the dressing room.
 
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GVBs form in the league was shocking. To those saying we sacked him too early, that’s based on a healthy dose of hind sight on account of how shit Beale was.

No doubt though that GVB was not helped by the Board when it came to recruitment.

And by %^*& what a job he did in Europei. Absolutely incredible getting to Seville, and then getting past PSV into the CL. With that squad, no manager in the world was going to get positive results in the group we had.
 
That CL group was the stuff of nightmares. I could barely believe the nonsense on here about how we could finish 2nd. Out toughest ever group.

The recruitment the last 3 summers has been disgracefully bad.
 
Had Gio been backed to the level others have, he'd still be here and we'd be in a better place than we are now I suspect. Getting rid of him having not backed him at all and selling some some key players then giving that money to they charlatan Beale was criminal.

The football wasn't good on the eye but he wasn't backed to bring in any of the players needed and forced to shop in the bargain basement.

The jury is still out on Clement for me, hopefully he can build though.
Agree with this. For me GvB had credit in the bank. Sacking him a few months after winning the Scottish Cup and reaching a European final was poor. Sacking him to replace him with Beale was unforgivable. He was working with a stale and ageing squad and he should have been allowed to do the rebuild. Not Beale. Clearly the jury is still out on Clement, but I feel pretty confident he'll take us forward. The time to judge is this time next year. Not before
 
The 3-0 Celtic game at Parkhead should have been played at New Year when we were playing well and Celtic were struggling, and Kyogo was injured. But, like the previous season when the SPFL finished the season at the 3/4 point the SPFL suspended the season early to have an earlier winter break. That allowed Celtic to rejuvenate and add players - Maeda, Hatate, O’Riley. Then we got entangled in the run to the Europa Final. Similar to 2007/08 when the SPL agreed to the postponement of the New Year game and we got entangled in the run to the UEFA final in Manchester. Funny that !
 
Sometimes both sides are right. Gio failed domestically against dross but deserved to be backed far more than he was in the summer of 2022 for obvious reasons.

While he may have received decent financial investment prior to PSV, how much say he had in who came in is highly debatable. We all said he should have been backed further after that miracle in Eindhoven and it's pretty well accepted now that the board at the time f****d it.

I've been round the houses with this one, but with the benefit of hindsight, I feel a great degree of sympathy for Gio.
 
Comments from Gerrard and Gio camps that recruitment was disappointing.

Are we properly setting expectations with our managers?
With Gerrard I think the change to park impacted it he changed how we bring run

But I think promises we're made after 55 then changed.

I tend to think the veerman rumour was half true mainly because he had plays us like he hates us badly every game

With gio I think the promises were made in the expectation we wouldn't beat psv And then it was like oops sorry no can do

Both managers though went from excitement to what seems like depressed with a short period

Even with Beale the chairman's report says 21 mill invested that will be wages over full time as well as transfers I would hazard a guess we brought in more than we spent and the out going wages more than covered what was brought in ........ it was playing on words
 
The CL run was a stroke of bad luck like he said. Liverpool are class and we collapsed after goldson went off, Napoli were probably the best team in the world at that point in form and Ajax were solid aswell. We got pumped but I don't hold that against Gio and his team tbh. Bad stroke of luck in all honesty.

Gio's fault and regardless of his boring style of play, came down to the fact he couldn't lay a glove on Celtic. Phil will go the same way if he doesn't start beating them, imo.

Gerrard should have got funding he was promised but ultimately it was during covid where income was an all low. Regardless though if the board promised him funds that's up to them to deal with. But likewise they have to put our club first and make sure we don't go into administration again.

So many fucked up / bad stroke of lucks in such a short period of time to be honest.
 
Inside 10 months he collected nineteen less points than Celtic in the league when he was starting from a position of six points clear, failed to beat them in the league & suffered two brutal pastings at the hands of them, the second one considerably worse than the first one.

There was a 10 point swing in his first six months. We were then 9 behind them by Novermber when he was sacked.

He needed to go. We weren't winning the league with him.

Not getting on board with the revisionism being spun. Maybe if Gio was a bit more forceful and demanding then he'd have got what he wanted. The fact he went along with it just tells me the guy wasn't cut out to be our manager long term.

I'm not sure it's revisionism rather a closer look at the circumstances from fixture manipulation + rule changes through to the injuries he had to deal with.

What did Beale do to justify his transfer freedom and what more than Gio has Clement shown to justify the (hoped-for) outlay this Summer?

How would Gio have fared against Rodgers rather than Postecoglou? Or without the transfer planning of Wilson...

It's all academic. But it will be interesting to see if Clement is given more leeway should we start slowly next season because we cannot continue to sack managers after 12 months.
 
GVBs form in the league was shocking. To those saying we sacked him too early, that’s based on a healthy dose of hind sight on account of how shit Beale was.

No doubt though that GVB was not helped by the Board when it came to recruitment.

And by %^*& what a job he did in Europei. Absolutely incredible getting to Seville, and then getting past PSV into the CL. With that squad, no manager in the world was going to get positive results in the group we had.
Gio had to go - we were adrift of the Beasts, had been embarrassed by them at the Piggery and humiliated in Europe. It was clear the players had lost all confidence and he didn’t appear able to claw it back.

Ominously we’ve looked just as bad over the last couple of months and our new manager appears at just as much of a loss.
 
I'm not sure it's revisionism rather a closer look at the circumstances from fixture manipulation + rule changes through to the injuries he had to deal with.

What did Beale do to justify his transfer freedom and what more than Gio has Clement shown to justify the (hoped-for) outlay this Summer?

How would Gio have fared against Rodgers rather than Postecoglou? Or without the transfer planning of Wilson...

It's all academic. But it will be interesting to see if Clement is given more leeway should we start slowly next season because we cannot continue to sack managers after 12 months.
There’s a good argument to say we need to buck this cycle of jettisoning managers every autumn, but is he really going to survive if he’s lost the opening OF clash and we’re several points behind already come the autumn?

There were calls to give Gio more time, even Beale to a lesser extent, but results dictated that the board had to act.

I doubt it’ll be any different this year if Clement can’t significantly improve our football.
 
There’s a good argument to say we need to buck this cycle of jettisoning managers every autumn, but is he really going to survive if he’s lost the opening OF clash and we’re several points behind already come the autumn?

There were calls to give Gio more time, even Beale to a lesser extent, but results dictated that the board had to act.

I doubt it’ll be any different this year if Clement can’t significantly improve our football.

Gio was easy to sack. Not a lot spent in the transfer window vs. the income his 'success' on the field brought in.

With Beale also being a cheap replacement, the Board could make the gesture of jettisoning Gio and bringing in a crowd favourite to resurrect the likes of Morelos, Kent & co.

If the talk is correct, it looks we're going all-in with Clement this Summer. The Board will have to stick with him for more than a few months.
 
Gio was easy to sack. Not a lot spent in the transfer window vs. the income his 'success' on the field brought in.

With Beale also being a cheap replacement, the Board could make the gesture of jettisoning Gio and bringing in a crowd favourite to resurrect the likes of Morelos, Kent & co.

If the talk is correct, it looks we're going all-in with Clement this Summer. The Board will have to stick with him for more than a few months.
Not sure what ‘the talk’ is, but with the likelihood of no CL money I don’t see there being anything other than a modest budget for Clement this summer (even Beale’s net spend was only around £5m in the end, was it not?).

Unless Koppen is something of a genius in the transfer market and Clement proves he’s better than the one trick pony he’s looked these past couple of months, I think it’ll be difficult to attract the sort of quality we need to turn this around the way we want.

It’s easy at this point in time to say we just need to persevere with him, but come the autumn if we’re seven points behind again and still without a win against them, it’s going to take balls of steel from the board to stick with it amidst the customary hysteria and baying hordes.
 
Agree with this. For me GvB had credit in the bank. Sacking him a few months after winning the Scottish Cup and reaching a European final was poor. Sacking him to replace him with Beale was unforgivable. He was working with a stale and ageing squad and he should have been allowed to do the rebuild. Not Beale. Clearly the jury is still out on Clement, but I feel pretty confident he'll take us forward. The time to judge is this time next year. Not before
Spot on the board made a disgraceful decision
 
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