RotterdamBear
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Expect him to react by going to a nightclub or some nonsense
Euro 24 - England Squad announcement
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Expect him to react by going to a nightclub or some nonsense
Some outstanding talent in that squad, there is also, a fair amount of bang average players
gers1978
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They wouldn’t have been allowed to play a 9 year old Portuguese boy anyway
Think both Mainoo and Wharton will take to International football like a duck to water. Both just have that mentality. Don't expect either of them to start either, Southgate will go with the safer option to play alongside Rice in Conor Gallagher.
Chilwell is pish.
BroomhillBear
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Was never, ever happening anyway
I agree. The forward line is elite class and the midfield extremely talented. But the defence, Stones and Walker apart, is Premier League mid-table stuff. And the goalkeepers leave a lot to be desired between them. Man City up top, Chelsea at the back.
Macdonsj
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as i said - i don't rate him either
but the other options are Trippier (utterly utterly done) & Shaw (out for months)
its like the Scotland RB issue
collection of truly awful options
Macdonsj
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they might, might not
Southgate should play TAA with Rice
behind Foden Bellingham Palmer -> Kane
Or he may think he has to play in England to be called up. Tough one.
KensingtonBlue
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Curtis Jones (bench warmer at Liverpool) ahead of Harvey Elliot (first pick at Liverpool) seems bizarre
Ron Swanson
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Southgate was never going to pick a player performing well in every match in Scotland over an average performer in less than 50% of matches in the EPL - he wouldn’t want to face the questions / criticism.
He’s a politician who cost his country the last Euros and a place in the 2018 World Cup Final, and he’ll likely be the one who costs them this Euros as well.
Think it can only be because Jones can and has played well as a number 6 at times for Liverpool. Where Henderson used to play. Elliott doesn't really have a set position yet, but he's not a 6 at all.
Arkansasgerstill
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Or Henderson or a Burnley goalkeeper that is a kid and got dropped during the season...and yet they all did!
Arkansasgerstill
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Here we go again...only if you think the Premier League is the only league in the world. You do realize that no English teams filled with these players reached any Euro final this season? Just wondering.
Neck on the line stuff there
Pickford
Walker
Stones
Maguire
Shaw (if fit)
Wharton
Rice
Bellingham
Palmer
Foden
Kane
That would be something like my team. Wharton allows Rice to play where has been playing so well for Arsenal all season. As much as I appreciate Saka and as good as he's been for England in general, Palmer just has that X factor. Him and Foden would be playing much more centrally, not out wide getting chalk on their boots where they are not in the game at times.
Walker
Stones
Maguire
Shaw (if fit)
Wharton
Rice
Bellingham
Palmer
Foden
Kane
That would be something like my team. Wharton allows Rice to play where has been playing so well for Arsenal all season. As much as I appreciate Saka and as good as he's been for England in general, Palmer just has that X factor. Him and Foden would be playing much more centrally, not out wide getting chalk on their boots where they are not in the game at times.
Arkansasgerstill
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At last, someone sees the truth. Their 15 forward players are outstanding, no argument but you can't play 15 forwards in one game! Their defensive & midfield 15 are bang average and without a few key players Pickford, Walker, Rice, Stones they would be so vulnerable. Lose them and they have next to no chance, and that is where in tight games, they often come undone.
I'm sad that we won't get to see Sir Marcus Rashford, OBE, MBE, V. C. miss in another shootout.
Southgate can somehow play 15 right-backs in one game though, the magician.
LoyalRanger_72
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Trafford has spent the season picking the ball out of his net and got dropped for being that bad. He might genuinely be one of the worst keepers I’ve saw at that level. How he’s even in the provisional squad over Jack Butland is madness.
Rashford definitely deserved to be dropped, he’s been awful.
Jordan Henderson is no longer good enough and Southgate instead of playing the expected old pals act has done the right thing.
I don’t think England will win it because of the manager but they’ll definitely get to about the semi final again.
I expect this to be Southgate’s last tournament in charge
Rashford definitely deserved to be dropped, he’s been awful.
Jordan Henderson is no longer good enough and Southgate instead of playing the expected old pals act has done the right thing.
I don’t think England will win it because of the manager but they’ll definitely get to about the semi final again.
I expect this to be Southgate’s last tournament in charge
LoyalRanger_72
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The best option to probably play at left back for England is Joe Gomez because of all those situations.
Mr_Miscellaneous
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One Left back in the squad, who hasn't played regularly in months.
Ah well, onto the next tournament.
Ah well, onto the next tournament.
paphosranger
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Trippier has played well at left back plenty times before.
Flying Fullback
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Do the 30 train together? Suppose it gives people a last chance to impress. Or if someone gets injured you can pretend your backup was always first choice anyhow
WinkieWATP
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I’d go for Rico Lewis tbh
gsobers96
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In what way? Gives the guys on the bubble one last chance to fight for a place in a couple friendlies before the squad gets cut.
gsobers96
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This is basically the squad for the pre tournament friendlies. So yes they train and play together.
Macdonsj
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Mitchell at Palace?
Mr_Miscellaneous
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Yep, but his form has fallen off the face of a cliff this season.
He's a complete liability defensively these days.
Mustang mad
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i cannot wait to watch England at this tourney. Should be right up there. equally though, they could fall flat.
Paisleybear30
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Deschamps seems to have some bizarre issue with Saliba. He's the only person in the world who doesn't rate Saliba
Wazza
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England are favs all over the world mate, it doesn't mean it is a definite we win it but there are reasons we have a cracking chance - players and the draw for starters.
GovanFront4
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He also had issue with Aymeric Laporte. Think he's a bit of a weird guy but you can't take away the job he's done.
LoyalRanger_72
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Actually forgot about that boy mate. He’s a good player tbf
Overall I'm cautiously optimistic of our chances but can see another semi-final/final defeat.
One part of me sees some of the worlds best players that are also in great form - Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Rice...
One part see's a lot of good/average defenders who you just wouldn't trust against the better sides - Gomez, Dunk, Konsa, Guehi...
And another part just too many unknowns, players who it might be one tournament too soon for - Mainoo, Wharton, Branthwaite, Gordon etc. Add to that the uncertainty surrounding Shaw and Stones who are vital to England but have missed a lot of football.
One part of me sees some of the worlds best players that are also in great form - Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Rice...
One part see's a lot of good/average defenders who you just wouldn't trust against the better sides - Gomez, Dunk, Konsa, Guehi...
And another part just too many unknowns, players who it might be one tournament too soon for - Mainoo, Wharton, Branthwaite, Gordon etc. Add to that the uncertainty surrounding Shaw and Stones who are vital to England but have missed a lot of football.
With a good manager they should be winning it
Southgate is truly terrible. It will be proven once again when he moves back into club management and is fired in 6 months. The guy is an absolute joke
Playing McGuire just to be stubern when he was playing like a non league player and not getting a game for Man Ure proves this.
You have to separate the Maguire you see for United and the one for England under Southgate though. Not saying he's ever been a world-beater, or even close, for England. But in general he's been solid, and has a good partnership with Stones. Certain players just play better for their country than they do for there clubs, and Maguire is one of those people.
Think over the next 12 months you'll see Branthwaite take his place anyway.
Blueranger45
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he's not allowed to walk out of the defence with the ball with England as much as he is with Man Utd either
Southgate knows his strengths so will just keep him for the defending rather than trying to be somebody who starts attacks when he has players for that
Elliot is anything but a first pick at Liverpool, comes off the bench for the most part. Is their super sub because he doesn’t look the best when he starts.
Him and jones are two different midfielders, jones holds possession better and plays a little further back than Elliot.
a_weir
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Butland omission is baffling
He kept 25 clean sheets for us and saved 71.43% of shots
Meanwhile Burnley's keeper gets in… look how the stats compare:
Ramsdale: 64.29% (11 shots faced)
Pickford: 70.48% (166 shots faced)
D Henderson: 65.48% (84 shots faced)
Trafford: 65.7% (166 shots faced)
He kept 25 clean sheets for us and saved 71.43% of shots
Meanwhile Burnley's keeper gets in… look how the stats compare:
Ramsdale: 64.29% (11 shots faced)
Pickford: 70.48% (166 shots faced)
D Henderson: 65.48% (84 shots faced)
Trafford: 65.7% (166 shots faced)
No matter what stat you put, Scottish football is considered a joke in England.
No one playing up here, no matter how good they are, is going to get into the England national squad.
I think Jack thought that some good European performances might have been enough.
Southgate came to see him against the scum and even though he played well, he was not overly impressive that day.
ThreestripeS
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Laudrup11Cooper
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Don’t think he knows how to.
The U.S. Male
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looking at squad and who is classed as a forward, are they playing 3-2-5 lol
some great players but couple of injuries in defence/midfield and they are fcked.
some great players but couple of injuries in defence/midfield and they are fcked.
Exactly. He's just in the team for his height. He does extremely well in both boxes. Obviously there will be times a quick and mobile striker makes him look silly but that comes with being a big lump. His partnership with Stones is excellent as they compliment each other so well. Obviously he's not and will never be John Terry, but for England, he's generally been fine.
Wazza
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This is why I think Branthwaite is a cert to go. Capable of causing real problems on corners as well, England always look dangerous at set pieces.
