I fancy a trip to Elland rd next season wether they make the epl or not.
Fans being priced out of watching football
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Staunch blue 72
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The only thing I disagree with is “Clubs I believe, treat fans as consumers nowadays, relying on their loyalty to keep following the team no matter what”
Let’s be honest, they always have. This is not a new phenomenon. Almost every sports team in the world is run as a business, that’s the way it’s always been. We all love going to watch the Rangers and we definitely pay over the odds for tickets. There will come a point when, if prices keep rising, people will have a decision to make about whether it’s worth it or not
Let’s be honest, they always have. This is not a new phenomenon. Almost every sports team in the world is run as a business, that’s the way it’s always been. We all love going to watch the Rangers and we definitely pay over the odds for tickets. There will come a point when, if prices keep rising, people will have a decision to make about whether it’s worth it or not
I was having the conversation the other day with a bear. With the challenge of getting tickets for Ibrox if you are a non ST-holder are we in danger over the next decade or so of losing young people to the support? I'm thinking about kids aged 10-18. If it's hard to get a ticket they might decide to support someone else (unless family influence is strong). When I was watching the Thistle / Airdrie game at Firhill there were loads of kids in the stand behind the goal. Reasonably priced for them to go these games.
I've only had Kilmarnock this season and IIRC it was around £30-35 for the tickets
MancGer86
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There's no doubt that city have a lot of glory hunting fans now because of the success. That goes for every successful club. The hard-core that I'm used from when I started watching is a solid 26,000 fans as an average even in lower leagues. That's a decent fanbase.
Some people just can't look past 115 without any insight into what those charges are actually all about and use that to discredit everything that's actually incredible about the club these days.
Nothing replicates match going experience ............
My Man City season ticket costs £18 a game roughly. Any I don’t attend if they clash with Rangers I put on my mates City site face value or less. They always sell easily.
RenfrewshireTrueBlue
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Can I be honest, as I’m the sole financier of my trips to Ibrox and I got a decent maybe 10-12 this year, I’m concerned about how I’ll afford this in future seasons. This is my last year qualifying for Juvenile prices before I get switched to adult prices, and my currently part-time employ doesn’t exactly pay me Rockefeller’s riches
Wazza
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It’s not as many as people think though is it, been really poorly dealt with by the EFL and I think it’s affected season ticket sales. Some people seem to think their league 1 or 2 Club won’t be playing at 3pm Saturday most weekends, I reckon it’ll be 3/4 a season:
- 10 regular weekend games across the three divisions will be broadcast
- Five Sky Bet Championship matches
- Five matches across Sky Bet League One and Sky Bet League Two
Fucking hell. Clubs think supporters are on footballers wages it seems. Imagine having 2 kids you take to the football too. Simply not affordable
Ardoyne RSC
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I'm led to believe a Linfield season ticket costs £70 (not sure if this is full price or pensioner / juvenile). seems good value, even if the standard is shite.
rangeral
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The EFL looked at Saturday 3pm been live but decided against with concern of losing ticket revenue
Yes, the blocked period between 2.45pm and 5.15pm on regular weekends will remain.
This means there will be 26 games (seven in Championship, and 19 in League One and Two combined) in the Saturday 3:00pm slot, which will not be broadcast in the UK each regular weekend
Q&A: EFL & Sky Sports broadcast rights agreement
EFL Clubs have overwhelmingly approved a recommendation put forward by the EFL Board and Commercial Committee to enter into a new five-year broadcasting deal with Sky Sports worth £935m.
www.efl.com
Research suggests removal of Article 48 (and the broadcast of all games) could lead to a drop of up to £37m in attendance revenue, therefore that number needed to be factored into any offer that sought to remove it
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if you have had an interest in a club where it means something its great , both goal ends stand for the 90 minutes constant singing etc
well worth a watch
Sticky
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Been customers for a long long time!
KensingtonBlue
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This doesn't make sense - unless the stadiums are empty, fans are not being priced out
Some fans may be being priced out. But that's it
Some fans may be being priced out. But that's it
rangeral
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Celtic would be £54 if we had an allocation Livingston was £30
Sticky
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and yet lots don't even watch the whole game.
MancGer86
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See none of that sounds that bad to me but maybe my pov is skewed by what I'm used to in Manchester.
54 quid for celtic as opposed to 77 quid to watch City v utd. And 58 quid to watch us against Sheffield utd. So our bottom rank tickets (fir adults anyway) are still cheaper than the OF.
Went to Elland Rd a few years ago, in the away end. Cracking old style ground, much better experience and general character than these identikit soulless modern stadiums.
Begbie's Moustache
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I agree with the principle here but the aim is money, not necessarily profit! The clubs are allowed to lose a collective £2 billion over rolling 3 year periods which makes a mockery of all the money they bring in - it'll never be enough.
rangeral
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That is away games
For games at Ibrox the price is based were you sit in the ground for the season just past - slight discount on restricted views on those prices
Cat A - £54 Celtic - only one price
Cat B - £33-£46 Aberdeen Hearts & Hibs
Cat C - £31-£44 Dundee, Kilmarnock Livingston, Motherwell, Ross County, St Johnstone, St Mirren
MancGer86
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Yes I seen the price difference at Ibrox I think my ticket for PCs first game with us against Hibs was 46 quid sat in Sandy Jardine stand whereas Hearts in the main stand was 32 quid if I recall correctly.
I couldn't tell you how much it is for City away games for the top/bottom category games I've not had an away ticket in several years now.
rangeral
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Away fan tickets in the EPL are capped at £30 no matter who the game is against
MancGer86
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No wonder they're nigh on impossible to get hold of. Bargain that.
iaatpies
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There's a small discount when buying South Shields tickets in advance rather than on the day. Not bank breaking amounts, but it's sill a price difference. Think its £16 in advance for tier 6 of the English football pyramid. I've been to 2 Shields games this year and enjoyed both of them. Once as a day out and one when visiting family in the area. £16 for tier 6 of the English system - price wise that's similar to SPFL League Two. But Shields are getting 2000+ at their games and are running a full time team. That's something that Caley Thistle in tier 3 up here won't be doing next season.
TV money makes such a massive difference, even in the lower tiers, because of how the English deals were structured.
peasandgravy7
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It’s not just football, I got sent an email from the SRU asking me to buy a 4 match ticket for the autumn tests , price ranging from £110 up to £270 (£27.5 - £67.5 a game) all for basically friendlies.
iaatpies
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Something I'm a firm believer in. Football is best experienced in person. Whether you're a regular or occasional attendee. Saturday morning rituals and routines. Pre-match catch up with friends. The game itself. Chatting with friends at half time and after the game. The match day experience has to be taken as a whole. Most of us will have grown up going to games with a father, a grandfather, an uncle or an older brother. How many folk have great memories of spending time with their family as they were growing up? A lot of that will be based on time spent at the football on a Saturday. Then there are the folk, particularly older or disabled fans, who many struggle to do an awful lot socially. Those folk may see their saturday at the football as a bit of a social lifeline.
A saturday afternoon at the football has the potential to be hugely positive for so many reasons.
LarkfiedLoyalNS
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We are not getting value for money that’s for sure, if we are serving up Celtic another title on a plate and domestic failure I think this will be the year the penny will drop and protests will start against the board.
Wazza
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Problem is the 90 minutes is often the worst part of it, I ain’t meaning the actual match just the lack of atmosphere, poor service at bars and toilets etc…
Are you saying the club sell his ticket for Arsenal for £1500 and give him the money? Is that not the same as a tout hiking up the price outside the ground?
Brennan Huff
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You couldn’t even get a single ticket for the Wolves game through the official channels mate.
TBF, they refunded me for the Cityzens memberships straight away
There were loads available for double the face value on Ticombo etc but I just couldn’t justify £500 for a 1 off game at the time.
Wazza
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Been there a couple of times so know what’s it like. Just think people should be encouraged and not dissuaded, I’m likely to have 3/4 pints as well so it’s their loss if they want to put me off going by adding £3 on the day.
Barryhopez
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That is true. I suppose you could say we knowingly get ripped off for the product and accept to a degree that we are being charged a lot of money.
basiltherat
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Why would they make them cheaper?
They'd be hoovered up by touts who'd make even more than they do now
Have a look on ebay at the amount of stuff signed by players for free being sold for stupid prices
The money is better going to the clubs than get quick rich guys who are nothing but leeches
speedo215
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Have they put the prices up a fair bit then? I’m sure I paid about £5.40 for a pint of asahi last season.
BlueHaze
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Better give your hard earned cash too greedy players and the leeches that are agents.
PeteGibbons
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Exactly this. They money they get from the paying fan coming to games isn't what brings them riches, so there is no need to be rinsing them like this and pricing people who have been going for seasons out.
The product isn’t value for money, so I just think of the rest of it as a donation to trying to keep up with the rest of modern football.
I was talking about that the other day as well with the guys in the work, not only Rangers but Celtic as well, we were all thinking the same that both clubs could eventually lose out on a up and coming generation, my grandson has been on the waiting list for a few years now, doesn't look like he will be getting one soon. In the meantime he and some friends have season tickets at Firhill. there is usually around 7 of them go to the game, 3 of them are what you would have called Rangers supporters, 2 Celtic supporters and 2 that have always been Thistle, thee OF kids still have and still ask for Rangers, Celtic tops, but I can see the signs of them all staying at Firhill
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bluenose75
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There seemed to be quite a few empty seats yesterday which I find bemusing. Is this people with season tickets not attending or due to the price of the tickets?
bluenose75
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Until there is a genuine wages and transfer cap then the costs will spiral every year because we all want the best players at your level who will ultimately cost more. Outwith transfers like every other business in the UK operating costs have increased significantly with utilities, wages and materials all having gone up way above inflation so the money has to come from fans unless we are happy not to invest in the squad etc.
MancGer86
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I honestly haven't seen that to be the case so can't offer a reason or explanation.
These FFP/PSR rules have meant clubs are having to try to squeeze even more money out of the fans.
TheDerryend
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It's well out of my comfort zone and has been for a while. I've adapted though, when I head to the mates bigot hut, I'm actually quite happy with that. Only costs a bottle of vodka.
Barryhopez
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Overall though I feel that if people are being priced out or, rightly, choose to do something different for the football with their mates it's a real shame that is what it's become.
