Lowest points total for 4 seasons

Got to be one of the most spectacular capitulations ever for a football team unless anyone can offer any alternatives.

To be in the box seat 6 weeks ago to where we finished is absolutely embarrassing and should see a good number of Rangers careers end as a result.
 
paphosranger said:
Would have been worse under that fuckwit Beale and Phil didn't come in.
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We'd lost almost half of our first eight league fixtures then Beale got sacked, the damage was done. Clement worked a miracle with a squad as bad as any we've had.

An absolutely colossal summer coming up for our future. Getting it wrong doesn't bare thinking about.
 
Beale fkd us early on and created a ridiculously unbalanced team, we needed wide players with pace and power and he spent 3.5million on Lammers when we already had 3 no.10's if you include Hagi.

He also built the team around Tav, Goldson, Lundstram etc so we were on a hiding to nothing from the beginning, we need to stop kidding ourselves on, other than one season with no fans, it hasn't worked for us.

The full team needs ripped apart, we need the element of surprise next season.
 
Tbf that’s mostly down to the start of the season under Beale and a blip under Phil. Back the gaffer and we will see results next season.
 
Mr Wilton said:
Beale made the squad worse than the previous 4 seasons so I am not surprised.
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He brought in our best player this season and without injuries, the second best player this season.

I’m no fan of Beale but if he’d just came off the last eleven weeks than Clement has, this forum would be killing dozens of hamsters. Some of these players are Clements too and joined the team when we were in ascendency.
 
Fairbrass said:
Beale fkd us early on and created a ridiculously unbalanced team, we needed wide players with pace and power and he spent 3.5million on Lammers when we already had 3 no.10's if you include Hagi.

He also built the team around Tav, Goldson, Lundstram etc so we were on a hiding to nothing from the beginning, we need to stop kidding ourselves on, other than one season with no fans, it hasn't worked for us.

The full team needs ripped apart, we need the element of surprise next season.
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Beale decided he wanted to play a narrow formation and got rid of all of our wingers then changed his mind 3 games in, the board need to take their share of the blame.

Got to hope Clement is ruthless.
 
15 points out of last 30

Warburton esque form.

Complete clear out of Phil wants to be here longer than next year
 
Texas ranger said:
He brought in our best player this season and without injuries, the second best player this season.

I’m no fan of Beale but if he’d just came off the last eleven weeks than Clement has, this forum would be killing dozens of hamsters. Some of these players are Clements too and joined the team when we were in ascendency.
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The reaction on here would have been very different to playing Sterling as a right and left winger for months while the midfield looked so open if it was Beale making that call.
 
Texas ranger said:
He brought in our best player this season and without injuries, the second best player this season.

I’m no fan of Beale but if he’d just came off the last eleven weeks than Clement has, this forum would be killing dozens of hamsters. Some of these players are Clements too and joined the team when we were in ascendency.
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I wasn't for Beale & for some reason just never took to him but we can't just continue to blame the previous management for all of our current problems.
No matter how bad Beale was it doesn’t excuse what's happening now right in front of us.
Did Clement get the new manager bounce?
Has the team under Beales pre season preparation just simply ran out of steam?
Any way you look at it this run of the last 11 league games is as bad as we have probably ever seen in the context of results, performances, tactics, footballing ethos, te character etc etc
We can't just ignore the evidence that is staring us in the face that Clement has been totally unable to turn this run of form around for whatever reason & that is worrying due to the advantage any Rangers manager hold over the majority of other SPFL managers
 
Think about who left last summer and who the replacements were.

Colak out = Dessers in - Downgrade
Kamara out = Cifuentes in - Downgrade
Sakala out = Lammers in - Downgrade
Arfield out = Dowell in - Downgrade
Devine out (on loan) = Sterling in - Upgrade
McGregor out (retired) = Butland in - Huge upgrade
Kent out = Sima in - definite upgrade
Morelos out = Danilo in - Upgrade but crippled with injuries.

Some upgrades but the players that look half decent have been unavailable through injury.
 
Taking charge of a team mid season must be awful.

Particularly our one.

Clement has a massive summer. He really needs to be ruthless and show some balls.

Get rid of the deadwood and rot infesting our squad.

The only quick way to help the injury issues is to ditch the main culprits (ooc etc)

Tavernier is a problem that will make or break him.
 
GR3RFC said:
Got to be one of the most spectacular capitulations ever for a football team unless anyone can offer any alternatives.

To be in the box seat 6 weeks ago to where we finished is absolutely embarrassing and should see a good number of Rangers careers end as a result.
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I can offer a multitude of capitulations over the years that far exceed an average squad dragging itself from nowhere into a title race then ultimately falling short. Waste of time blowing this league campaign out of proportion. We were never good enough and just when it looked like beyond all reason we might just pull off an unlikely league title, reality bit and we dropped points. We were never favorites for the title at any point. That lot have won it god knows how many times over the last 15 years so anyone other than them winning it would have been a shock. Phil has given us a cup win, a good run in Europe, a sniff of a title even if it ultimately wasn't to be and another cup final to come next week.

Enough with the dramatic language and a bit of perspective of what's required in terms of squad turnover to make us properly competitive again going fwd.
 
TerrySilverLoyal said:
Taking charge of a team mid season must be awful.

Particularly our one.

Clement has a massive summer. He really needs to be ruthless and show some balls.

Get rid of the deadwood and rot infesting our squad.

The only quick way to help the injury issues is to ditch the main culprits (ooc etc)

Tavernier is a problem that will make or break him.
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I get your point, but it wasn’t really mid season for one thing. Clement got 79% of our league games. He got the bulk of the season. Yes he didn’t have a pre-season nor the transfer window obviously but even the transfer window was no where near as bad as it’s been made out to be . In fact it’s arguably produced the three bright spots we have had in the squad - Butland, Sima and Sterling.

The injuries are the one big thing for me. I do believe that the pre-season Beale gave the squad was wholly inadequate. One of his failings.
 
Texas ranger said:
I get your point, but it wasn’t really mid season for one thing. Clement got 79% of our league games. He got the bulk of the season. Yes he didn’t have a pre-season nor the transfer window obviously but even the transfer window was no where near as bad as it’s been made out to be . In fact it’s arguably produced the three bright spots we have had in the squad - Butland, Sima and Sterling.
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Yeah was more or less meaning the preseason over anything

That’s where the hard work is done and it’s clearly shown us up
 
55degreesnorth said:
Think about who left last summer and who the replacements were.

Colak out = Dessers in - Downgrade
Kamara out = Cifuentes in - Downgrade
Sakala out = Lammers in - Downgrade
Arfield out = Dowell in - Downgrade
Devine out (on loan) = Sterling in - Upgrade
McGregor out (retired) = Butland in - Huge upgrade
Kent out = Sima in - definite upgrade
Morelos out = Danilo in - Upgrade but crippled with injuries.

Some upgrades but the players that look half decent have been unavailable through injury.
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Tillman, Sakala, Kent, Morelos, Hagi, Colak, Arfield, Cantwell and Motondo (last seasons attacking players) are far better than Dessers, McCausland, Sima, Silva, Motondo andCantwell.
 
TerrySilverLoyal said:
Yeah was more or less meaning the preseason over anything

That’s where the hard work is done and it’s clearly shown us up
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Your point on the ruthlessness resonates most with me. The squad needs a new identity and a new captain. Surely there is no one left that would debate that. And those who are merely collecting their paycheck need gone or allowed to collect it from the stands.

It will mean his signings for the most part need to be starters, not squad players and they will all have to hit the ground running. A very difficult task.
 
We have given big Phil a lot of grace because of the injuries. If we had given Gio the same patience in the few months after the Europa Final when we also had a stack of critical injuries, we wouldn’t be in this mess now. It is imperative that Clement now has a great close season and pre season. We can’t make another change.

Ps. There was a thread on here back in Jan/Feb discussing how many points were needed to win the league and most of us said 93-95. We were right, and I for one don’t think Clement recognized that was what was needed. He better now because that is roughly what will be needed next year too.
 
Fairbrass said:
Beale fkd us early on and created a ridiculously unbalanced team, we needed wide players with pace and power and he spent 3.5million on Lammers when we already had 3 no.10's if you include Hagi.

He also built the team around Tav, Goldson, Lundstram etc so we were on a hiding to nothing from the beginning, we need to stop kidding ourselves on, other than one season with no fans, it hasn't worked for us.

The full team needs ripped apart, we need the element of surprise next season.
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Absolutely agree with that. Element of surprise isn't spoken about enough.

Sell every player we can get a decent sum for, including Butland and restart. Every single part of the team is predictable. From the style to the selection and the choice of subs. Bang bloody average.

I wouldn't be too miffed at seeing the back of every single one of them. Including Butland as he's associated now with the rest of that team of losers.
 
MancGer86 said:
I can offer a multitude of capitulations over the years that far exceed an average squad dragging itself from nowhere into a title race then ultimately falling short. Waste of time blowing this league campaign out of proportion. We were never good enough and just when it looked like beyond all reason we might just pull off an unlikely league title, reality bit and we dropped points. We were never favorites for the title at any point. That lot have won it god knows how many times over the last 15 years so anyone other than them winning it would have been a shock. Phil has given us a cup win, a good run in Europe, a sniff of a title even if it ultimately wasn't to be and another cup final to come next week.

Enough with the dramatic language and a bit of perspective of what's required in terms of squad turnover to make us properly competitive again going fwd.
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We were bookies favourites from about February onwards until the disgusting collapse at Ross County and Dundee.
 
The scary thing as well is that it could have been so much worse.

Last summer's window made us infinitely worse.
 
Texas ranger said:
He brought in our best player this season and without injuries, the second best player this season.

I’m no fan of Beale but if he’d just came off the last eleven weeks than Clement has, this forum would be killing dozens of hamsters. Some of these players are Clements too and joined the team when we were in ascendency.
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Yes, getting Butland was a real coup to be fair. Sima less so, but he’s not our player. The players that Clement has brought, Diomande and Cortes show real promise. Sterling was a good surprise too, but he will be forever known for Dessers and Lamers, that’s not going to change. He left us weaker than when he arrived.
 
Coza said:
We were bookies favourites from about February onwards until the disgusting collapse at Ross County and Dundee.
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The title has never at any point been out of the hands of the fuckers across the road who have won 11 out of the last 12 titles. At no point have we ever had the right to call ourselves outright favourites for the league. If the bookies ever had us favourutes it would only have been by a slight margin. We got close. As close as this squad was capable of getting. That's a testament to Clements ability to polish a terd.
 
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