He hadn’t played since August tbfDoesn’t help when you have a fat Stormzy playing up front for you
Cough, Southgate.Roberto Martínez must be up there with the biggest frauds of a manager. Those players year after year failing to do anything! There are loads obviously but he’s near the top for me!
You couldn’t be more right sir, watched his Everton team for a couple of seasons.Roberto Martínez must be up there with the biggest frauds of a manager. Those players year after year failing to do anything! There are loads obviously but he’s near the top for me!
Folk need to grab a can of juice.So did Davie Cooper ya nutter!!!!
I would have laughed had it made any sense.Folk need to grab a can of juice.
It was a joke
Like it or not he is the most successful English manager since Sir Alf. I get he is boring and teams can play some pretty boring football. But he is best tournament manager they've had since 66.Cough, Southgate.
At least with Southgate you could say he's cynical enough to get the results when it matters.You could really say the same about Southgate.
England has a lot of talented young players a better manager could get them winning tournaments Southgate will not.Like it or not he is the most successful English manager since Sir Alf. I get he is boring and teams can play some pretty boring football. But he is best tournament manager they've had since 66.
With that midfield? Being protected by that defence?England has a lot of talented young players a better manager could get them winning tournaments Southgate will not.
If I supported England or was English I would want the best manager I could get to manage them no one can honestly say that is Southgate.
We will never know I guess it's all just opinions but I always think if you get someone in with a history of winning you have a better chance.With that midfield? Being protected by that defence?
Nah, a "better manager" would try to get them playing expansive football and getting them roasted on the regular by better teams.
AgreedNot surprising
They've had a similar level of player for years. The supposed golden generation got top managers in. Didn't do anywhere near as well as man currently in the roleEngland has a lot of talented young players a better manager could get them winning tournaments Southgate will not.
If I supported England or was English I would want the best manager I could get to manage them no one can honestly say that is Southgate.
Fair enough we will agree to disagree here.They've had a similar level of player for years. The supposed golden generation got top managers in. Didn't do anywhere near as well as man currently in the role
Germany about to get papped out the Wc, Italy not even qualified, but England no where near them.Spain, France, Germany, Italy are international football’s big 4 in Europe. England don’t get anywhere near any of them. Holland closer to making up the big 5 than England are.
I think this idea of Belgium having a golden generation is a bit over-stated.
England also had a golden generation and won nothing but Belgium is nowhere near the level of Europe's big five never mind the South Americans.
Belgium have done well for a country its size.
Even at their peak they did not have 'a team full of world class players.'So having a team full of world class players isn't a golden generation?
Regardless of their size they shouldn't be getting dumped out in the groups with the talent they have.
Even at their peak they did not have 'a team full of world class players.'
Can you name this team full of world class players?
If we’re taking one tournament in isolation yeah, you’re right. But England have made two finals. One of which was was nearly 60 years ago. The rest have won multiple World Cups and European Championships. As Belgium have shown, it’s one thing to have a good squad, but to be considered one of the truly great footballing nations, you have to go and earn that status .Germany about to get papped out the Wc, Italy not even qualified, but England no where near them.
Ok
2 years to late.He should have been winning something with the players he had avaliable
And me!!!!So did Davie Cooper ya nutter!!!!
Aye, just meant in the here and now or this generation.If we’re taking one tournament in isolation yeah, you’re right. But England have made two finals. One of which was was nearly 60 years ago. The rest have won multiple World Cups and European Championships. As Belgium have shown, it’s one thing to have a good squad, but to be considered one of the truly great footballing nations, you have to go and earn that status .
They were a good team for sure but probably burdened with over-expectation.The peaked at the last world cup probably. That term clearly doesn't mean every player is world class.
Courtois, Kompany, De Bruyne, Hazard and Lukaku were world class.
5 out of your starting 11 being world class is a golden generation.
Then you've got Vermaelen, Vertonghan, Mertens, Dembele etc.
Martinez as he was seen as an attack minded exciting manager, Henry as he brought the wealth of experience of a world class player, Maloney as he got the team fast tracked through airport security due to travelling with a wean.Couldn't believe it when he got that job.
Martinez, Maloney and Henry must be the most random management team ever!