Bigbluebear
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With some of the best players in the clubs history as his team mates as well.
Tavernier testimonial
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With some of the best players in the clubs history as his team mates as well.
dublinbluenose
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alongside David Murray
Davie Weir
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Davis wasn’t a Rangers player long enough for a traditional testimonial
Div1872
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Overall Tav has been a fantastic signing
Yes he has made mistakes. All players do. Even worldclass players make mistakes
However his goals and assists cannot be overlooked or ignored
Yes we should have won more trophies with him as captain especially the 55 season but our team failed that’s season too
If Saudi transfer fee is substantial then the club have to consider it
No idea if Tav has any interest in Saudi or not and maybe this testimonial story is a way of him saying he wants to stay at the club
Maybe his family are not interested in Saudi and he still has 2 years left on his contract and wants to stay
The summer will be interesting
Yes he has made mistakes. All players do. Even worldclass players make mistakes
However his goals and assists cannot be overlooked or ignored
Yes we should have won more trophies with him as captain especially the 55 season but our team failed that’s season too
If Saudi transfer fee is substantial then the club have to consider it
No idea if Tav has any interest in Saudi or not and maybe this testimonial story is a way of him saying he wants to stay at the club
Maybe his family are not interested in Saudi and he still has 2 years left on his contract and wants to stay
The summer will be interesting
West brom tried to get him at one point. 4m rumoured bid.
Bigbluebear
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I imagine if every single one of John Greigs games were televised like all of Tavs 450+ games have been, with multiple replays of every single goal lost and misplaced pass, we would be able to pick out a litany of errors he made that "cost" us games and trophies.
The abuse Tav gets it's mind numbing.
The abuse Tav gets it's mind numbing.
dublinbluenose
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Do you know what Davie Cooper would have been absolutely slaughtered on here in the early 80’s.
Taverneeeeer
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Not a great comparison though mate considering for his his first 3 or 4 years, we were a bin fire and werent even realistically remotely close to challenging. None of which was his fault. A hybrid of Gough, Butcher and Greig playing couldnt have made rob kiernan a league winner.
Yep, younger generation very much wedded to that era and finding it hard to accept the ongoing aftermath of it.alongside David Murray
Taverneeeeer
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Then assisted the winner and blocked a last second equaliser on the line.
albop
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So your being a smart arse but my point stands
He scores. Pens mostly, James Taverneeeeer ain't bigger then rangers football club im sorry but sometimes you need to replace players to move forward
The way a few on here are acting as if we wouldn't score a penalty again and no one else can hit a free kick
As others have said start next year with tavs clique in the dressing room him trying to take most corners freekicks and all penaltys Clement will be going
Midfield General
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And wee Bud Johnston,never won a league title but one of our best players in my time watching Rangers 50 plus years.
BruceyBalboa
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I've got my thoughts on Tavernier as a leader, but that's an entirely different discussion.
If he's stayed for ten seasons then he absolutely deserves it. He's been a fantastic servant to Rangers in his time here, and I dread to think where we'd be without the likes of him and Butland this season.
If he's stayed for ten seasons then he absolutely deserves it. He's been a fantastic servant to Rangers in his time here, and I dread to think where we'd be without the likes of him and Butland this season.
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JamboReid1874
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Some of the insanity on this forum never ceases to amaze.
What happened to Rangers in 2012, 99% of clubs would never recover from much less get back to the top flight, win a league and get to a major European final and achieve post-Xmas European football year after year. This man has been a major part of all of that.
Tavernier is and has been an excellent player, with some flaws to his game - for me the positives always end up outweighing the negatives and it’s been a privilege and a pleasure to watch him play up here.
What happened to Rangers in 2012, 99% of clubs would never recover from much less get back to the top flight, win a league and get to a major European final and achieve post-Xmas European football year after year. This man has been a major part of all of that.
Tavernier is and has been an excellent player, with some flaws to his game - for me the positives always end up outweighing the negatives and it’s been a privilege and a pleasure to watch him play up here.
Taverneeeeer
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Most of this reads like a post from kerrydale street tbh. Not sayng for a second you are a celtic fan obviously, just that we seem to be more disparaging of our players than even they manage.
Aye but he had a stinker at Tynecastle 7 years ago ( as did the other 11)Achieved so little!!!.the highest goal scoring defender in our clubs history
and in british football.captained a Rangers team in an european final. only four men have captained Rangers in an european final and tav is one of them.on that run to
seville joint top scorer in the competition.captained a rangers team who won a title without losing a game.scored some of the best goals i have ever seen from a rangers player.
so your right he hasn't achieved much
Taverneeeeer
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100%. And, the stark reality is that if he didnt have flaws to his game while still producing the numbers he does, he would be in Madrid and not Govan.
WinkieWATP
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He doesn’t just run over and get the ball to take it first that’s down to the managers and tactics worked on during the week.
Any thread about Tav these days becomes a farce because of posters like yourself. If you don’t think he is deserving of a Testimonial then just ignore the thread?
He joined us when we were in the Championship and playing in Petrofac cup finals. He has then played a part in an undefeated league title and led us to a Europa League final. He deserves far more respect than he gets from some of our support.
Davie Weir
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Have you any evidence of ‘Tavs clique’ or have you made it up in your head and passing it on as fact?
As for mainly penalties, it’s the Celtic fan argument. Rarely have we had a player who can hit a dead ball like James Tavernier can. Rarely has a player scored from penalties in such high pressure situations like James Tavernier has. He also scores and assists plenty from open play (19 non-penalty goal contributions this season so far).
This nonsense “ some fans prefer Tav to Rangers “
Naw I prefer Tav to the Arseholes in our support maybe that will clear it up for these negative Pricks that that spend all there time waiting on Tav making a mistake to say “ i told you so” on the internet who obviously in there life are absolute leader of men that live such perfect lives in peak condition.
Naw I prefer Tav to the Arseholes in our support maybe that will clear it up for these negative Pricks that that spend all there time waiting on Tav making a mistake to say “ i told you so” on the internet who obviously in there life are absolute leader of men that live such perfect lives in peak condition.
Los Pollos Hermanos
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You said he’s went through more managers than any player in our history, now you’re deflecting because you may have made a lady's front bottom of yourself yet again.
Missed the first ten minutes and genuinely hadn't seen this until now. That's me on board with the rage
JRei23
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Team game , is it not ?
Bluenose1979
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He remains our current best and most important player (perhaps challenged by Butland this season).
Ultimately, I think the club needs to freshen things up significantly, but given the reality of being able to carry out a proper root and branch turnover in the summer being very low, Tav is well down the priority list for moving on given his overall contribution to the club.
On this point, he can't really win. Says nothing and it's ongoing speculation and he's accused of not denying it. Denies it and gets called inappropriate because he should be focusing on the run-in. Says it's true and he'll be accused of upsetting the team in the run-in.
He also 100% merits a testimonial if he stays next season. Comfortably well earned.
Ultimately, I think the club needs to freshen things up significantly, but given the reality of being able to carry out a proper root and branch turnover in the summer being very low, Tav is well down the priority list for moving on given his overall contribution to the club.
On this point, he can't really win. Says nothing and it's ongoing speculation and he's accused of not denying it. Denies it and gets called inappropriate because he should be focusing on the run-in. Says it's true and he'll be accused of upsetting the team in the run-in.
He also 100% merits a testimonial if he stays next season. Comfortably well earned.
Big D
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I think most recognise his limitations and without those limitations he wouldn't have been with us for nearly 10 years. I think we can also recognise and respect the fact he joined us in the Championship, saw us promoted, has won all the domestic trophies (yes, could / should have been more) and his goals contributed massively in getting us to a European final. He's been infuriating at times and utterly sublime at others. In short, I think most people can see the big picture. Personally I'd be more than happy for him to have a testimonial year.
Los Pollos Hermanos
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Yes, and you’re the biggest contributor.
Guy gives his entire career to Rangers, becomes the highest scoring British defender of all time, and comes within a penalty kick of being our most successful captain ever.
Imagine your instinct is to moan. Some folk really must live with extreme daily misery, and should probably get some pro help.
Tav’s contributions to this club will only be appreciated in the history books. Fans who aren’t born yet will have him in their best ever Rangers teams. Of course he deserves a testimonial.
Imagine your instinct is to moan. Some folk really must live with extreme daily misery, and should probably get some pro help.
Tav’s contributions to this club will only be appreciated in the history books. Fans who aren’t born yet will have him in their best ever Rangers teams. Of course he deserves a testimonial.
Davie Weir
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It’s batshit mental that it would even be a debate
albop
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He's went through more in any time in this current teamYou said he’s went through more managers than any player in our history, now you’re deflecting because you may have made a lady's front bottom of yourself yet again.
Are you daft or at the windup
I'm not banned
Can I asked a honest question if we lose the league and if he does it again next year and the year after
You gonna admit you were wrong
I think you would blame the manager,or the fans
My personal opinion is that testimonials at a certain level of football (which rangers are clearly at) should be a thing of the past with the exception of a career cut well short by injury.
Don’t have an issue with celebrating (not financially rewarding) a player with 10 years or more service but we could do this with an event like a dinner in his name either at EH or similar venue.
This applies to anyone, not just Tav.
Don’t have an issue with celebrating (not financially rewarding) a player with 10 years or more service but we could do this with an event like a dinner in his name either at EH or similar venue.
This applies to anyone, not just Tav.
Bluenose1979
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Why? What's the issue with a testinmonial? What about an opportunity for the fans to celebrate with him and show appreciation at an event? A dinner is hardly giving him that opportunity.
BlancaBear
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Any defender who rattles in over 150 goals for the club is absolutely deserving of a testimonial.
Especially since it raises money for charity as well.
Especially since it raises money for charity as well.
longtallsally
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Would be well deserved. It is interesting that he's worked under 6 or 7 managers who all played him as captain. Yet people on here still think he is a Diddy. Madness.
Fully deserved
Anoldranger
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Elvis
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The man is deserving of his testimonial if he remains with us. He'll have had other offers but chose to stay with us.
Should he have won more?
Absolutely. However one man does not make a team. For every mistake he's made, you can also point to every important goal he's scored, whether in the league, cups or in Europe. He's rarely injured and he's out there to be shot at. He's also played under some awful managers as well as a couple of decent ones.
I'll be happy to support his charity and attend his testimonial, when it comes along.
Should he have won more?
Absolutely. However one man does not make a team. For every mistake he's made, you can also point to every important goal he's scored, whether in the league, cups or in Europe. He's rarely injured and he's out there to be shot at. He's also played under some awful managers as well as a couple of decent ones.
I'll be happy to support his charity and attend his testimonial, when it comes along.
Davie Weir
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A testimonial game will mean more to the player and raise more money for charity.
A proper opportunity for real fans to show their appreciation.
dublinbluenose
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Get to a European final ten years after being in division 2 is nothing short of remarkable.without tav we wouldn’t have got to that final.
madride
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The debate around Tav is beyond tedious.
Some people will point to his lack of trophies and defensive frailties, others will point out the modest fee we picked him up for and the huge return in goals and assists it’s resulted in.
Both are valid but it’s the extreme, raging, angry posts that add nothing. People quoting things like “only scores penalties”, “can’t play under pressure”, “never a captain”, “hides after a defeat”.
All I’ve read over the last few years is how Patterson, Devine and now Sterling should be playing ahead of him. Every one would have been be a downgrade and would’ve been slated on here by the same posters after a few games
Some people will point to his lack of trophies and defensive frailties, others will point out the modest fee we picked him up for and the huge return in goals and assists it’s resulted in.
Both are valid but it’s the extreme, raging, angry posts that add nothing. People quoting things like “only scores penalties”, “can’t play under pressure”, “never a captain”, “hides after a defeat”.
All I’ve read over the last few years is how Patterson, Devine and now Sterling should be playing ahead of him. Every one would have been be a downgrade and would’ve been slated on here by the same posters after a few games
albop
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See this pish tavs giving his full career and service to Rangers
You would think he was a war veteran injured in combat and we owe him
He's been payed very good for his time here
Sick of arguing about this to be honest enough stuff going on in my life, this is a football forum with opinions
You would think he was a war veteran injured in combat and we owe him
He's been payed very good for his time here
Sick of arguing about this to be honest enough stuff going on in my life, this is a football forum with opinions
The other thing to this is a lot of folk who get testimonials have served part of their ten years as squad players etc. Tavernier has likely been in the discussion for, or actually winning our player of the year and in the team of the year for the vast majority of those 10 years as well.
See when he's currently the top goalscorer in the team again then how do you replace those goals and assists that he contributes? There's a massive over reliance on Tav to step up and do it time and time again due to the lack of goals in the team like the team selection on Sunday showed. He's been crap for the last few weeks but he doesn't hide he keeps going and he does what he does by putting a cross straight onto Dessers head. He steps up in big moments to take penalties that is leadership. Does he need replaced moving forward? He will yes but with your other posts it seems you blame Tav for us not winning more and not the managers that have been in charge rather strange point of view to go with.
See when you say clique who is the clique? Clement has told us whose in the leadership group so am guessing you want Butland gone as well in the summer or is he safe?
He's gave us 10 years service over 100 goals over 100 assists in that period, 4th captain to lead us to a European final where he was top goalscorer stepping up in big moments. He deserves his testimonial if he stays on next season should he have won more? Absolutely but its 2 separate arguments.
ForzaLaudrup
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Firstly, if he has been here long enough to merit a testimonial then he absolutely deserves one. Build in the fact that he has been a magnificent servant to our club and our captain then it is a no brainer.
To somehow try and have a go at him that he doesn’t deserve one or shouldn’t be thinking/talking about one is absolutely wild. I dread to think where’d we’d be without him tbh
On the testminonial itself, on this day and age Monday made from them doesn’t go to the player. It goes to charity of the players choosing/club charity. The testimonial committee also determines ticket prices so it’s effectively the club simply putting on the game. The planning and costs associated are determined by outside sources.
You are absolutely miles off it here
