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What butland thing?Anything in this Butland thing doing the rounds?
What butland thing?Anything in this Butland thing doing the rounds?
Did you get a good look at his ears? Did he give off a “I’m here to score 25 league goals next season” vibe, or was he dressed in a more “im a box to box midfielder who will move on for millions” sort of fashion? Or was it Josh Magennis in a wig to throw us all of the scent?
Where is the interest coming from for Butland?
I assume he must be moving to be a 1st choice rather than an EPL squad player again.
You don't know if he's even a player but you know he had his bird and agent with him?!
The post of yours I quoted stated that you thought he fitted our system and has done fine.Not sure how you come to that conclusion of me being happy with 2nd from the point I am making. Dessers will score goals in the league for us as he's shown this season but if someone of better quality is available go and sign them is what I am saying.
I can see the logic in Shankland if we're going more medium term in other positions and that on the European stage he is unproven and we're accepting that fact. He'd certainly bag more goals than what we get out of Dessers currently at least but I just don't know what a "sensible" fee is.Sitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Title winning teams need 4 strikers if you play with 2 up front.Sitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
I can see the logic in Shankland if we're going more medium term in other positions and that on the European stage he is unproven really. He'd certainly bag more goals than what we get out of Dessers currently at least but I just don't know what a "sensible" fee is.
Title winning teams need 4 strikers if you play with 2 up front.
I’m not sure that’s the case when you play with 1 up front like we do.
Would gladly settle for Danilo, Dessers and Shankland as our options tbh. Defence and midfield needs too much work to be spending big money on two strikersSitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
this is what i cant get my head around Lammers a success so we take a hit Sima not playing for Brighton has a moderate success at Rangers we must pay whatever Brighton wants
saw this thread from the rangers journal earlier in the month on free transfers
Dont see us getting bullied in games with these lads
Yeah true that is fair enough. The standard of teams they played versus what we will is lower, but it's certainly a good return.Shankland scored 5 goals in 10 games in Europe for Hearts so I wouldn’t say he’s unproven.
You heard Butland is off then?Sitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
Given his performances outside of Holland, and given the state of finances in Holland - we’re basically hoping AZ or Twente want him if we are to receive anything over £1.5m. Who in Holland has £3.5m to spend? The top 3 won’t want him.
Can’t he do the Webster ruling
Whart asset doesn't leave the SPFL for the Prem on that basis though?
You heard Butland is off then?
You heard Butland is off then?
I don’t want to state the obvious, but we had a thread on Shankland that had about 10k posts. What else can be left to be said? Other than the fact he’s been shite every time we’ve played Hearts and Clement clearly doesn’t fancy him. Surely that topic has been done to death.
Southampton? "if" they return to the Prem, they definitely need a keeper in.Given Butland’s recent history of being on the bench, though, I’m guessing he doesn’t want return to that situation. Thus, I’m curious which team(s) is interested and offering the opportunity to be #1.
Yeah there will be, but no team in Holland (outside the top 3) has ever spent more than about a million quid on a player - other than AZ and Twente. That’s my point.I dont have access to each teams financials but Im willing to bet a few teams in the Netherlands would be interested in Lammers given his achievements since January.
Exactly. POTYSitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
Exactly. POTY
I don’t watch Hearts unless they’re playing against us, so it’s pretty tricky to offer up a valid assessment. The constant flogging of the Shankland horse when it’s beyond obvious the club have zero interest is a bit much - given the flogging is pushing tens of thousands of attempts.I genuinely do not care how he plays against us.
Do we just ignore and then forget the 30 odd goals he’s scored this season including many against Celtic over the last two seasons, something none of of strikers can do regularly just because he’s not been great against us?
With injuries this season and so many chances missed we need 4 strikers which gives us options in any game/scenario.
He played well and scored for hearts in Europe this season. It was in the European conference league though, but still up against a decent standard, not too much different from what we will be up against unless we make the champions league. He's also scored a fair few against us and the bheasts with minimal service. I think he'd be a worthwhile signing if we could get him for 2m or under, I doubt hearts would sell for that though even with a year left on his contract.Yeah true that is fair enough. The standard of teams they played versus what we will is lower, but it's certainly a good return.
Don't allow facts to get in the way of the fairytale that Lammers is good enough to the lead the line for Rangers.He missed nearly every big chance that fell to him.
I don’t watch Hearts unless they’re playing against us, so it’s pretty tricky to offer up a valid assessment. The constant flogging of the Shankland horse when it’s beyond obvious the club have zero interest is a bit much - given the flogging is pushing tens of thousands of attempts.
Could be McLaughlin or McCrorie?
Aye true. Didn't stop me filling my pants there though.Heard nothing and anything I do hear this summer I won’t be posting in this thread as it’s not worth the bother anymore.
I’d imagine McCrorie will want to move on and we’ll likely try and sign another.
What if we promise to be real nice and respectful to each otherHeard nothing and anything I do hear this summer I won’t be posting in this thread as it’s not worth the bother anymore.
I’d imagine McCrorie will want to move on and we’ll likely try and sign another.
You heard Butland is off then?
Yes, rumoured that we were looking at him with a pre-contract in mind. Went quiet after January tho.weren't we linked with Kraev in January?
Do you think the club are interested?You have no idea if that’s the case.
Yes, rumoured that we were looking at him with a pre-contract in mind. Went quiet after January tho.
There's been rumours for a while now that it's pretty much done and he's off to an EPL team.
One of the guys who broke the news of him coming early on suggested it.
Whether it's true remains to be seen.
And ridvan as well? Strange thing to say that we need 2 left backs unless he's away.You heard Butland is off then?
I think its lazy speculation TBH.
Butland will only want to go back South if he is getting games otherwise him moving to us has been pointless if he leaves to sit on a bench again.
I'd love to see how we do with him in goals and a stronger defence in front of him.
I think his form has every so slightly dipped as he has lost confidence in the players in front of him.
The boy from the Rangers Journal raves about him.weren't we linked with Kraev in January?
And ridvan as well? Strange thing to say that we need 2 left backs unless he's away.
Not for one moment saying we shouldn't take Shankland, but if you're looking for someone who scores against the rest of the teams in the SPFL...Dessers scored against 9/11 league opponents this season. Only teams he didn't score against in the league were Killie & Aberdeen.Multiple POTY awards this season actually
We have been craving a striker like him for years now. Someone who routinely scores against all teams in our league yet some saying he’s still not good enough for our squad.
It’s utterly laughable.
That depends on Shankland's attitude towards the moveIf Hearts are serious about Europe this season getting to a domestic final next season and qualifying for Europe again keeping Lawrence Shankland until his contract runs out is the best way to achieve all that goals ........
in my opinion £750,000 or even £1.5 million doesn't tempt hearts in January never mind this summer
The way we pick up injuries, we will need a squad of 80.Sitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
Yilmaz and Jefte would be enough at left back surely?Sitting here laughing away to myself at people in this thread still saying Shankland isn’t good enough for us.
And for the hard of thinking, we probably need 4 strikers so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that both Shankland and Dessers are in our squad next season.
Danilo
Dessers
Shankland
+1 more
Title winning teams always need at least 4 and we’ll be losing Lammers/Roofe.
Needing it and having the money to sign 2 strikers on top of…
GK
RB
2x LB’s
2x CB’s
2x CM’s
RW
…will remain to be seen.
I hope we keep him.Ridvan was being allowed to leave in January.
I don’t see how that changes now.
I agree with this. Also, if his sale was agreed, there is no way Clement is in the media saying we have to keep him.I think its lazy speculation TBH.