Former Celtic Boys Club chairman faces abuse trial

[RWL12]

So here's some connections for this 'separate entity'...

- Chaired the 'feeder club'
- Worked for a company supplying trophies (presumably the same as Torbett)
- Worked for the Celtic FC club magazine (presumably at the same time as John Cullen)

Just pure coincidences, of course.

At what point do the media start saying "paedophile ring was in operation".

1 person guilty, it can happen anytime, anywhere, any club, any workplace.

2 people guilty, okay, two people at one club could be paedophiles. They may know about each other or may not.

3 people, 4 people, 5 people. 6 people, 7... 8....

All working at the same football club / involved with the same club at the same time.

Sounds like a paedophile operation and not just coincidence.

(And thats before you add Bennell, and random priests).

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Was he not charged before?

Yes, and convicted. That’s 3 of the original 6 now up for more charges.

He was originally given 3 years Probation & put on the Sex Offenders List.

Celtic. The Paedophiles Paradise.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

At what point do the media start saying "paedophile ring was in operation".

1 person guilty, it can happen anytime, anywhere, any club, any workplace.

2 people guilty, okay, two people at one club could be paedophiles. They may know about each other or may not.

3 people, 4 people, 5 people. 6 people, 7... 8....

All working at the same football club / involved with the same club at the same time.

Sounds like a paedophile operation and not just coincidence.

(And thats before you add Bennell, and random priests).

And as you know RWL, the 7 could soon be 9.

And we’re not finished by a long way.

 

[Derry's Walls]

How many is that now?

A great many, Mark.

Can Police Scotland, the judiciary or the political elite not join the dots????

There is a willful attempt to treat these beasts as individuals and not part of a collective; a ring including who knows whom - the common threads being that disgusting club and the church to which they allied themselves.

A shame on society and a further insult to the poor victims and survivors.

 

[jaws73]

King on the left.

Those poor boys surrounded by beasts.

Jeez!

King, Torbett, Cairney surrounding the lads. A ring indeed.

 

[BN94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507303600896233478

 

[RabSpackman]

What I find utterly bizarre is on no forum of theirs do they discuss any of the abuse

I’d imagine serious discussion is held away from publicly accessible messageboard to be honest.

Go on to a Celtic forum and start a thread on it and they will immediately think you are a Bear who is at it.
“The good name of the club” is also absolutely hard-wired into them as well (to be blunt, they have that spirit indoctrinated into them from an a early age) and when you have generations of that type of thinking it is difficult to chip away at that from the inside.

This might be controversial for some but there will be Celtic supporters who are utterly appalled at what has happened. I don’t think it is easy for them to raise that though.
There’s not an easy forum or platform for them to raise that opinion - and they will be rounded on by other Celtic supporters if they do so more openly.
In the near binary environment of the Old Firm, any admission or criticism of this will equate to “doing the Hun’s business for them”.

 

[Gio#56]

And they want to play a FRIENDLY over here in Australia away n eff yirsel ya shower a bastards

Our club should be highlighting this and letting the whole world know. WE ARE NOT PART OF any association with a morally corrupt organisation that preys on children.

Make no mistake that lot would have been doing so if it was the other way round. And for once they would have been perfectly right to do so.

Whilst we have a wet hankie as our MD. We will be guilty through association. After the open secrets were widespread in the 90s we should have ended any friendlies or get together there afterward.

Pull out of this friendly and highlight the ongoing legal disputes as to the reason. Do the right thing Rangers, for the survivors of this heinous crime.

 

[Govan Ger]

The mhedia have never asked the question, why was torbett brought back to parkheed 4 years after he was kicked out for abusing kids.

 

[The Union Flag]

Horrendous…. In any normal country an enquiry would have been called. Not in nationalist Scotland.

 

[Gio#56]

The mhedia have never asked the question, why was torbett brought back to parkheed 4 years after he was kicked out for abusing kids.

Because there is no excuse that is valid. It is just cementing he only was only kicked out because they got caught. As it simmered down he was back in there.

I will say what everyone is afraid to say. Those that were running Celtic at the boardroom level were involved.

 

[ThreeBears]

At what point does this all cave in on them? The SNP, police, SFA, media all complicit in the attempted cover up but the evidence is damming thanks to our guys leading the inquiry so to speak, i say again when does it actually cave in on them?

 

[RabSpackman]

The are probably waiting for the right moment to virtue signal that they are cancelling.

Apart from Dafabet

The folk in Dafabet that actively work with Celtic through their partnership are too emotionally bought into “Celtic” to make a sensible business decision on the matter.

 

[Charliedontsurf]

"Used to work for a company selling sporting trophies and cups"
Just another coincidence

They just wont tell truth here .Will they ?Rotten to the core.

 

[Simply a Bear]

Was that chairman a separate entity from the club?

Shut that abomination down now. And recompense all those who have suffered from this disgraceful scandal and crime once justice has been served on those who carried out the crimes, and those who enabled and covered it up.

 

[Macdonsj]

King has already been convicted after he was charged for interfering with school kids but the judge despite a jury conviction didn’t get a custodial sentence

This time if he’s found guilty he should be receiving a substantial jail sentence

Surely his previous criminal conviction for related offences must be taken into account ffs

Also linked to a shop selling trophies and other football items is purely a coincidence - NOT !

its Scotland
this kind of crime is dealt with leniency
scandalous

big jail terms are down south

 

[JD1872]

The club chairman no less, absolutely disgusting but not surprising

 

[Giffnock bear]

"Used to work for a company selling sporting trophies and cups"
Just another coincidence

The damning evidence already complied by the team at Spotlight and @BN94, @Grigo Yossarian and the rest of the gang would already suggest quite clearly that there was an undeniable link between convicted paedophile Torbett, his Trophy Centre business and the other convicted or soon to be convicted paedophiles working in the same business, as well as Celtic boys club/football club. The undeniable link would also suggest quite clearly that this would be part of a organised and deliberate child sex abuse ring.

There is no denying the links that have been made, nor is there any denying that they were all inextricably linked with each other, either with the Trophy Centre business, Celtic Boys Club and Celtic Football club.

They were all linked, they all intertwined with each other in business and quite clearly in their personal acitivities.

If a dafty like me can see it as a man on the street, then it should be pretty straight forward for a Judge in a court of Law in this country to be able to join the dots and come to the simple conclusion that this was in fact a sinister paedophile ring operating under the banner of Celtic Football Club, masquerading as a Boys Club and also with the clear business involvement of the Trophy Centre and the staff/directors who worked there.

There is no argument.

There was a clear and obvious paedophile ring operating within the walls of Celtic Football Clubs stadium and training ground.

Was there money laundering going on the trophy centre was giving 1million pounds over 4 years. That was substantial back then. Quite a few of the directors were involved with the trophy centre. They never disclosed the true attendance at games and still don't to this day.

 

[Giffnock bear]

At what point do the media start saying "paedophile ring was in operation".

1 person guilty, it can happen anytime, anywhere, any club, any workplace.

2 people guilty, okay, two people at one club could be paedophiles. They may know about each other or may not.

3 people, 4 people, 5 people. 6 people, 7... 8....

All working at the same football club / involved with the same club at the same time.

Sounds like a paedophile operation and not just coincidence.

(And thats before you add Bennell, and random priests).

Remember Savile was involved as well.

 

[RfcIbrox]

At what point do the media start saying "paedophile ring was in operation".

1 person guilty, it can happen anytime, anywhere, any club, any workplace.

2 people guilty, okay, two people at one club could be paedophiles. They may know about each other or may not.

3 people, 4 people, 5 people. 6 people, 7... 8....

All working at the same football club / involved with the same club at the same time.

Sounds like a paedophile operation and not just coincidence.

(And thats before you add Bennell, and random priests).

That 'same time' is 40 years.

 

[Govan Ger]

Because there is no excuse that is valid. It is just cementing he only was only kicked out because they got caught. As it simmered down he was back in there.

I will say what everyone is afraid to say. Those that were running Celtic at the boardroom level were involved.

The mhedia have never asked the Kelly and White's why torbett was brought back, there's been a massive cover up by the mhedia, SNP and the police to protect the so called "celtic family"

 

[Sticky Fingers]

Was there money laundering going on the trophy centre was giving 1million pounds over 4 years. That was substantial back then. Quite a few of the directors were involved with the trophy centre. They never disclosed the true attendance at games and still don't to this day.

One can only imagine the time of skulduggery that was going on behind the scenes of that business.

Clearly it was a front for Torbett, a very successful front. Celtic and the atrophy Centre would have had a mutually successful relationship, financially and otherwise.

The ties are there for all to see. I don’t think there would be much difficulty in proving the links in a court.

Celtic are complicit, whether they like it or not. They will be made to admit their wrongdoings in their involvements in this disgusting saga. The sooner the club admit their liability, the better for all concerned. The punishments for that club financially will be substantial, and hopefully damages them in other ways irreparably.

 

[Gio#56]

Kevin Kelly profile in the Celtic Company house directorship shows his occupation as a "Company Director Personalised Gifts".

But his profile does not have him listed at company house, with only 4 appointments,

Kevin KELLY personal appointments - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk

why is this?

Just my opinion, but him the priest and Savile are part of.

 

[GourockBlue50]

He should be stoned to death

Along with the judge.

 

[Bluethruandthru]

So here's some connections for this 'separate entity'...

- Chaired the 'feeder club'
- Worked for a company supplying trophies (presumably the same as Torbett)
- Worked for the Celtic FC club magazine (presumably at the same time as John Cullen)

Just pure coincidences, of course.

Are Adidas, Magners et al aware of this ?

 

[Bluethruandthru]

What I find utterly bizarre is on no forum of theirs do they discuss any of the abuse

It's the rc way in Scotland and Ireland

 

[Simply a Bear]

Are Adidas, Magners et al aware of this ?

Adidas have been made aware by the Spotlight team and individuals on here. They have ignored what is going on.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Adidas have been made aware by the Spotlight team and individuals on here. They have ignored what is going on.

As have Magners SAB.

 

[Gio#56]

It's the rc way in Scotland and Ireland

M8 that is so much not true,

In southern Ireland, they are now in the 21st century.

Their government done an independent investigation.

The commission found that Catholic priests and nuns had terrorised thousands of boys and girls for decades and that government inspectors had failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.

Our country looks at the SFA papers and what it found out. An association that employed Celtic directors at the time of the scandal.

 

[si72]

Dirty f ucking t arrier peado scum of the earth.List just keeps going on and on.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

M8 that is so much not true,

In southern Ireland, they are now in the 21st century.

Their government done an independent investigation.

The commission found that Catholic priests and nuns had terrorised thousands of boys and girls for decades and that government inspectors had failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.

Our country looks at the SFA papers and what it found out. An association that employed Celtic directors at the time of the scandal.

Yes, Sturgeon loves to quote Ireland as a country with a lot to respect these days.

As usual, she is convenient with her choices.

 

[Neilstonger]

And as you know RWL, the 7 could soon be 9.

And we’re not finished by a long way.

Please don’t be offended but I wish you were. The work you and many others are putting in to this does you enormous credit.

 

[Scoot1975]

How many is that now?

Tbh ive lost count mate,

Shocking stuff

 

[Mount_Bear]

I can't stress this enough.

BN94 and the Spotlight team have done more for the victims of abuse in this country than any police or government force ever have. Incredible work and so utterly commendable.

 

[Bluethruandthru]

M8 that is so much not true,

In southern Ireland, they are now in the 21st century.

Their government done an independent investigation.

The commission found that Catholic priests and nuns had terrorised thousands of boys and girls for decades and that government inspectors had failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.

Our country looks at the SFA papers and what it found out. An association that employed Celtic directors at the time of the scandal.

I stand corrected but 100% used to be the case , it was never allowed to be discussed.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

Please don’t be offended but I wish you were. The work you and many others are

We’re fine NG.

It’s just turned into something much larger than we originally believed mate.

 

[Gio#56]

I can't stress this enough.

BN94 and the Spotlight team have done more for the victims of abuse in this country than any police or government force ever have. Incredible work and so utterly commendable.

And this should be highlighted and put on Sturgeon's CV. Her failing and sweeping action alongside her justice ministers. She is guilty via association for not bringing justice for the survivors in an appropriate time scale. Many may die with this hurt hanging over them. Shame on you, bitch.

 

[Grigo Yossarian]

And this should be highlighted and put on Sturgeon's CV. Her failing and sweeping action alongside her justice ministers. She is guilty via association for not bringing justice for the survivors in an appropriate time scale. Many may die with this hurt hanging over them. Shame on you, bitch.

And many have already died due to this. We just don’t know how high it is yet.

 

[Gio#56]

The mhedia have never asked the Kelly and White's why torbett was brought back, there's been a massive cover up by the mhedia, SNP and the police to protect the so called "celtic family"

They were a separate entity m8. The trophy centre was their passion, hobby.

 

[Gio#56]

And many have already died due to this. We just don’t know how high it is yet.

one day m8, and I hope many are still here to see the day the guilty and their associates are brought to justice. A small comfort for the survivors knowing it will happen.

 

[senefelder]

Coining in too much cash to care.

Compare and contrast the utter sh#t storm Yorkshire County Cricket faced over allegations from a former player. Sponsors jumping ship right left and centre, officials, players, former players either sacked or their reputations, and future employment trashed. This country is rotten to its stinking core.

 

[Bear all]

What I find utterly bizarre is on no forum of theirs do they discuss any of the abuse

You are classed a bigot if you do as for the Media up here they should bow their head in enteral shame but we all know why they have ignored it keeping Celtic out the headlines comes before Truth and Justice.

 

[Thor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507284724007550990

The truth is they know but they just don’t care. I’m sure Magners is owned by Tennents and we had the head of marketing of Tennents last week tweeting about ‘zombies’.

 

[BrooklynBlue]

I’d imagine serious discussion is held away from publicly accessible messageboard to be honest.

Go on to a Celtic forum and start a thread on it and they will immediately think you are a Bear who is at it.
“The good name of the club” is also absolutely hard-wired into them as well (to be blunt, they have that spirit indoctrinated into them from an a early age) and when you have generations of that type of thinking it is difficult to chip away at that from the inside.

This might be controversial for some but there will be Celtic supporters who are utterly appalled at what has happened. I don’t think it is easy for them to raise that though.
There’s not an easy forum or platform for them to raise that opinion - and they will be rounded on by other Celtic supporters if they do so more openly.
In the near binary environment of the Old Firm, any admission or criticism of this will equate to “doing the Hun’s business for them”.

Silent condemnation is no condemnation. They are still protecting a football club above the welfare of children.

It’s disgraceful.

 

[Alvor]

Genuine question, has there been any Celtic Boys Club coaches or office bearers not suspected to be involved in child abuse?

 

[Gio#56]

Genuine question, has there been any Celtic Boys Club coaches or office bearers not suspected to be involved in child abuse?

It is clear a paedophile ring was in operation so they would not want any normal being, being part of it. Same with the trophy centre IMO.

 

[Penilee Gers]

"Used to work for a company selling sporting trophies and cups"
Just another coincidence

Iam sure he claimed that he didnt know torbett even though there are pictures of him and P1and P2 standing in team photos with boys in their full celtic regalia and The trophy centre isnt that big that he would pass his fellow big paedo bastard and not notice .

 

[BroomloanWATP]

It seems that this paedophile ring could be seen from space.

It is beyond belief that the entity inhabiting the Crime Scene is allowed to carry on existing.

 

[Timskelper]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507284724007550990

You would expect that to be the case BN, but as you and others know only too well, despite being bombarded with the many sordid details, it hasn't shifted their position.

I live in hope though that they'll ALL finally pull the plug on these parasites and that the world can see this club (a peados paradise) for what they truly are.

No words can express how much I feel for all of the survivors of this club and others, except to say I hope they finally get the justice they deserve and the peace they so dearly crave. Good luck to every single one of them.

 

[Woody]

What I find utterly bizarre is on no forum of theirs do they discuss any of the abuse

Swept under the carpet. It's engrained into them from top to bottom. Club officials, to fans and the media. They are all complicit in the cover-up. They are disgusting!