Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
New GK, new DM required for that to take place to be honest.Maybe not, but our biggest issue under Gio was not playing on the front foot enough so I'm glad this issue is being solved.
Beale was also assistant during our best our defensive record in the league so I'm confident after a pre season he'll have us looking good at both ends of the pitch.
Maybe not, but our biggest issue under Gio was not playing on the front foot enough so I'm glad this issue is being solved.
Beale was also assistant during our best our defensive record in the league so I'm confident after a pre season he'll have us looking good at both ends of the pitch.
Defending is much more difficult to fix. It'll take a long time to fix the structure and have the whole team defend well together. Set piece defending was absolutely horrendous (and still is). That'll take a complete rethink to fix.Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
The issue is scoring goals not conceding. The Tim’s have scored loads more than us.Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
Tbf Beale has won 9 away games on the bounce. Gio had a worse away record than Motherwell not long before he got sacked.Beale was more recently assistant when we kept going 1-0 every game too.
Gio struggled to hold on to a lead. Beale struggles to play for more than a half.
The front foot stuff is excellent, but there are flaws too and the flaws we have were also highlighted in his last spell.
The difference being the goalkeepers.I don't know how to split it between Gio and Beale but we are at 18.4 XG conceded for the season.
We have conceded 27 goals, so that tells you that we are conceding more than we should be.
Celtic are also on 18.4 XG for the season btw.
Weirdly Hearts have conceded the highest XG in the league.
Tbf Beale has won 9 away games on the bounce. Gio had a worse away record than Motherwell not long before he got sacked.
Domestically I’m more concerned about scoring goals than being tight at the back. Gios major problem was he thought the opposite.Strongly agree, but a different debate. There is still clearly room for improvement at the back when we keep conceding the same goal over and over - and did so before Gerrard/Beale left before too.
Remember Gio came in and started keeping one full back back and it stopped us conceding as many? It doesn’t need to be a straight comparison of overall performance - there are snippets of Gio’s tenure we can take that would compliment us now (it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing comparison).
As long as we score one more goal than we lose is all that matters.Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
You're right, that will come.Maybe not, but our biggest issue under Gio was not playing on the front foot enough so I'm glad this issue is being solved.
Beale was also assistant during our best defensive record in the league so I'm confident after a pre season he'll have us looking good at both ends of the pitch.
Gio was an absolute disaster for us in the league.Strongly agree, but a different debate. There is still clearly room for improvement at the back when we keep conceding the same goal over and over - and did so before Gerrard/Beale left before too.
Remember Gio came in and started keeping one full back back and it stopped us conceding as many? It doesn’t need to be a straight comparison of overall performance - there are snippets of Gio’s tenure we can take that would compliment us now (it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing comparison).
What was his away record in the league, out of interest? It got to the stage where I just expected us to drop points away from home regardless if it was Parkhead or Paisley.Gio was an absolute disaster for us in the league.
His away record was bottom six standard.
I see your point but remember the start of last season, when we kept laughing at that mob's expected goals stats and the expected goals table? We weren't laughing for long. There's something in it.I'm sure we'll win a trophy one of these days for having such stats
2-2 with HibsWhat was his away record in the league, out of interest? It got to the stage where I just expected us to drop points away from home regardless if it was Parkhead or Paisley.
Christ. And that was only this season.2-2 with Hibs
4-0 off the scum
2-1 off St Johnstone
1-1 with St Mirren
Won 2-1 against Livi
Won 4-0 against Hearts
Won 2-1 against Motherwell
So 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.
11/21 points, whilst Beale has 24/24
2-2 with Hibs
4-0 off the scum
2-1 off St Johnstone
1-1 with St Mirren
Won 2-1 against Livi
Won 4-0 against Hearts
Won 2-1 against Motherwell
So 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.
11/21 points, whilst Beale has 24/24
I think I remember reading on here a month ago that our expected conceded goals was slightly higher under Beale, could have changed by now but we are definitely still letting in a fair few goalsGreat, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
Last seasons wasn’t pretty either (after the break)2-2 with Hibs
4-0 off the scum
2-1 off St Johnstone
1-1 with St Mirren
Won 2-1 against Livi
Won 4-0 against Hearts
Won 2-1 against Motherwell
So 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.
11/21 points, whilst Beale has 24/24
2-2 with Hibs
4-0 off the scum
2-1 off St Johnstone
1-1 with St Mirren
Won 2-1 against Livi
Won 4-0 against Hearts
Won 2-1 against Motherwell
So 3 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses.
11/21 points, whilst Beale has 24/24
Last seasons wasn’t pretty either (after the break)
Yes, some still seem determined to peddle this pish. It's disappointing how much some people seem to want Beale to fail.And yet there are some absolute rotters on here who've said we're no different now to the last days under Gio
Worth bearing in mind that the wonderful Celtic have only conceded 6 fewer goals than us in the league (27 to 21).Great, but what’s the expected goals conceded?
I’m sure that won’t make for as nice viewing.
Yes, some still seem determined to peddle this pish. It's disappointing how much some people seem to want Beale to fail.
I remember it well, we were top of the league but the XG table was showing that they had an expected points way above ours.I see your point but remember the start of last season, when we kept laughing at that mob's expected goals stats and the expected goals table? We weren't laughing for long. There's something in it.
Such a basic thing to say though. Do you not expect the staff to be looking at why we concede and why we don't score the amount of goals we should? It's not under 10's thats why games aren't finishing 11-10.As long as we score one more goal than we lose is all that matters.
Of course there is or literally every club top club in the world wouldn't be using it.I see your point but remember the start of last season, when we kept laughing at that mob's expected goals stats and the expected goals table? We weren't laughing for long. There's something in it.
I think we do have to say that some horrendous officiating is also propping them up. Look at the Hibs games, 1 away from us earlier in season and wkend there for them. The ref ultimately cost us 2 points and who knows what wkend would have finished if the ref had been fair. Now this isn’t to sound all Paranoid like them but an even playing field and the gap would be a lot closer!Worth bearing in mind that the wonderful Celtic have only conceded 6 fewer goals than us in the league (27 to 21).
That could well be the difference between being 9 points behind and being 3 points behind, but it’s not a huge difference when you consider the opinions on our defence.
Worth bearing in mind that the wonderful Celtic have only conceded 6 fewer goals than us in the league (27 to 21).
That could well be the difference between being 9 points behind and being 3 points behind, but it’s not a huge difference when you consider the opinions on our defence.
I fear for Beale if he was to fail to win any of the 3 upcoming games against the Separate Entity due to the fans reaction.Yes, some still seem determined to peddle this pish. It's disappointing how much some people seem to want Beale to fail.
This XG stuff does my nut in, zero interest in “expected”, it’s actual goals that count and all that matters
Under Walter our XG figure would have been non existent in many games that we won, and expected goals against would have been higher than actual.
Such a basic thing to say though. Do you not expect the staff to be looking at why we concede and why we don't score the amount of goals we should? It's not under 10's thats why games aren't finishing 11-10.
13 goals conceded in the 2020/21 season - a record.As long as we score one more goal than we lose is all that matters.
Makes less of a difference when they’ve scored 5 & 6 against opponents regularly this year, something we’ve failed to do.Worth bearing in mind that the wonderful Celtic have only conceded 6 fewer goals than us in the league (27 to 21).
That could well be the difference between being 9 points behind and being 3 points behind, but it’s not a huge difference when you consider the opinions on our defence.
That’s really my point.Makes less of a difference when they’ve scored 5 & 6 against opponents regularly this year, something we’ve failed to do.
Not just with us, his away record in general is just shite. He never won an away European game with Feyenoord either and they played some minnows amongst that.Christ. And that was only this season.