Aston Villa in financial trouble?

I forgot about that fat mess wyness on the SPLTV thread the other day. He was the loudest mouth about kicking Rangers and Celtic out the league when we, rightly, told them to do one.
 
The only sensible thing for the FA to do here is to send Villa to the Conference, steal all their players and pocket the transfer fees, fine them millions and ban them from signing anyone over 16.

In fact, while they're at it they should ask Birmingham fans to organise a vote of other clubs to see if Villa should be stripped of their European Cup win, as they obviously cheated by signing good players they couldn't afford to win that.

Yes, that's what the FA should do
 
That Tony Xia always did strike me as a complete gobshite, I'm surprised it's taken so long for the shit to hit the fan.
 
Arminius said:
The only sensible thing for the FA to do here is to send Villa to the Conference, steal all their players and pocket the transfer fees, fine them millions and ban them from signing anyone over 16.

In fact, while they're at it they should ask Birmingham fans to organise a vote of other clubs to see if Villa should be stripped of their European Cup win, as they obviously cheated by signing good players they couldn't afford to win that.

Yes, that's what the FA should do
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You must be spiers English Spence Liewell or at very least a BBC employee after all HRH William supports them
 
ekbear said:
I forgot about that fat mess wyness on the SPLTV thread the other day. He was the loudest mouth about kicking Rangers and Celtic out the league when we, rightly, told them to do one.
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Iam sure he was the guy who said the old firm were like a couple of old prostitutes showing their knickers up in Sauchiehall Street to the the EPL,or words to that effect.
Something about both clubs touting to join the EPL.
Ive heard nothing of this at all,a great English Club in every sense,hope this gets sorted for them.
 
Moodymann said:
You don’t get served with a winding up order for missed payment, this can only be in relation to several missed payments which is extremely suspicious.
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That's not true. If a football club misses the 19th of the month payment deadline for its monthly PAYE/NIC payment then HMRC will be in contact with them within days. They have a specialist team now that focuses on UK football clubs. Clubs get a warning letter within a week giving them a short time to pay up, and if they don't then they'll issue a winding up order without hesitation. I'm aware of clubs in the Irish League where HMRC have gone down this route over sums less than £10,000 and they'll certainly do it for larger clubs in England too.
 
Arminius said:
The only sensible thing for the FA to do here is to send Villa to the Conference, steal all their players and pocket the transfer fees, fine them millions and ban them from signing anyone over 16.

In fact, while they're at it they should ask Birmingham fans to organise a vote of other clubs to see if Villa should be stripped of their European Cup win, as they obviously cheated by signing good players they couldn't afford to win that.

Yes, that's what the FA should do
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Couldn't argue with any of these suggestions. A Birmingham fan.
 
antrimbear said:
That's not true. If a football club misses the 19th of the month payment deadline for its monthly PAYE/NIC payment then HMRC will be in contact with them within days. They have a specialist team now that focuses on UK football clubs. Clubs get a warning letter within a week giving them a short time to pay up, and if they don't then they'll issue a winding up order without hesitation. I'm aware of clubs in the Irish League where HMRC have gone down this route over sums less than £10,000 and they'll certainly do it for larger clubs in England too.
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Very interesting. How long have HMRC been doing that ?
 
uneasydaz said:
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Keith Wyness,was he not involved with the furrybooters a while ago?
 
Walter2 said:
Don’t want villa under pressure,but the fat wyness fella downed us at every opportunity,sure he was trolling the docks area in “fit like “country.
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That was there previous Gordon Bennett caught twice by the police in red light areas.
 
Other than certain clubs in Scotland (for natural reasons) I wouldn't want any fans going through what we have. I hope Villa get themselves sorted as it's a hellish fucking experience.
 
at christmas villa said they couldnt afford to offer alan hutton a new contract,
two weeks before the play offs they did.
???????
 
Caldow1872 said:
The Birmingham fans will all be writing blogs as we speak
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The Villa tax case is being assembled as we speak. Computers hacked and info ready to be drip fed, out of context with precision timing.
Just Birmingham city bloggers mind, nobody in any positions of government or authority whatever.
 
Wilkinsvolley said:
The Villa tax case is being assembled as we speak. Computers hacked and info ready to be drip fed, out of context with precision timing.
Just Birmingham city bloggers mind, nobody in any positions of government or authority whatever.
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The blog contents will then be picked up by the MSM and regurgitated as gospel. Sound familiar?
 
Imagine the money you could rip out an English club if it was unfortunate enough to have the incompetence and venom we have up here.
 
Moodymann said:
Very interesting. How long have HMRC been doing that ?
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At least several years, not exactly sure. I do know that for years Irish League clubs have to sign an agreement with the Irish FA and HMRC that allows the IFA to check each month if they have paid their PAYE and VAT for that month. And they have to send the IFA a return saying if they have paid HMRC and all employees on time. If the SFA had had a similar scheme in place in 2011/2012 it would have highlighted what that (unt Whyte was up to earlier and may have helped prevent what followed?
 
Rumours of their financial state have been going around for a while. I think there's a lot more to it than missing an HMRC payment.
 
Arminius said:
The only sensible thing for the FA to do here is to send Villa to the Conference, steal all their players and pocket the transfer fees, fine them millions and ban them from signing anyone over 16.

In fact, while they're at it they should ask Birmingham fans to organise a vote of other clubs to see if Villa should be stripped of their European Cup win, as they obviously cheated by signing good players they couldn't afford to win that.

Yes, that's what the FA should do
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Is that not standard procedure.
 
It’s starting to look quite bad for Villa.

The owner is in China trying to get new investment and it’s costing him £6m a month to keep them going.

It looks like they could start next season in administration with a points deduction, if they have to sell most of their top players and pay off most of their top earners they could be battling relegation next season.
 
The bubble is bursting.

It will remain inflated in the short run for the clubs who retain EPL status and continue to get their cash injections. However times are vastly changing.

For anyone who gets relegated now, the financial disparity between the top league and the second tier has potential to wreck the entire club and has killed the Championship.

Most clubs in that league are running hugely unsustainable business models. They’re all spending beyond their means chasing the EPL riches but 21 out of 24 of them won’t see a return on their investment as they fail to get promotion.

Meanwhile the bottom 14 EPL sides are constantly watching over their shoulder and have to budget for a year in the Championship to avoid going to the brink. They don’t want to be another Bolton, Sunderland or Villa.

And on the other end, the big clubs know they’re guaranteed the EPL riches plus ever growing European cash. The end result is that the gulf between the ‘big 6’ and the rest in England is only going to widen. A European superleague style breakaway is inevitable.
 
Saw the bheasts were all over this on Twitter last night like moths to a flame with references to us - they truly are mentally damaged. Pleasing.

As for Villa, they seemingly gambled on going up last season with what they were paying out in wages, it was always a high risk strategy before you add the complications of the ownership situation into the mix.
 
That's fucking terrible what's happening at villa.

For ANY fan of ANY football club outside Scotland I have the deepest sympathy for their situation in circumstances like these.

Mental how disastrous losing that play off may prove to be.

For me the PL play off final is bigger than either cup competition.

A season of 30 something games boiling down to 90 minutes that will decide whether your club gets more money and exposure than it could dream of. Or a season of hard work culminating in absolutely %^*& all. In Villas case the stakes are considerably higher! Losing may mean financial Armageddon for the club which is absolutely horrible. If they go into admin -15 points before they've kicked a ball? Imagine they get their managerial appointment wrong and have a slow start? Possibility of league one? Horrible situation

Sincerely hope a solution is found
 
antrimbear said:
At least several years, not exactly sure. I do know that for years Irish League clubs have to sign an agreement with the Irish FA and HMRC that allows the IFA to check each month if they have paid their PAYE and VAT for that month. And they have to send the IFA a return saying if they have paid HMRC and all employees on time. If the SFA had had a similar scheme in place in 2011/2012 it would have highlighted what that (unt Whyte was up to earlier and may have helped prevent what followed?
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Good info. Agree on your point re Whyte.

Seems the IFA have a much more proactive approach to such matters which in turn can red flag these issues almost immediately before their spiral.
 
Alonzo Moseley said:
Rumours of their financial state have been going around for a while. I think there's a lot more to it than missing an HMRC payment.
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Yeah they were desperate to go back up to the Premiership this season but failed and I think the parachute payments start to dry up next season so they will cut costs and downsize dramatically.

You'd expect the best players will be sold and high earners told to find new Clubs.
 
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