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Be interesting to see what happens if Talbot go up.There are some clubs in regional leagues in Scotland who are happy enough with being top dogs in their own area with no ambition of progressing
Be interesting to see what happens if Talbot go up.There are some clubs in regional leagues in Scotland who are happy enough with being top dogs in their own area with no ambition of progressing
Was the postman from DundeeBuckie were sent 3 letters by the sfa over the season & didn’t reply to any of them
They threw it
Always wondered how the league 2 teams worked with part time. The likes of Stranraer away to Peterhead is a hell of a jaunt for part time players especially if it’s a midweek. Do they travel up and down on the same day or does the club put them up in a hotel? Must cost a fortune for the league 2 clubs
That’s madness. Irish league over here has part time players but furthest you would need to travel would be and hour and a half at most.I know a Dumbarton player and they travel on the day to Peterhead/Elgin if its a 3.00 kick off they're away by 9am from their arranged meeting point. They went to Elgin in November/December only to have to turn half up because the pitch failed a pitch inspection.
Another question I suppose I have regarding the league 1 and below part time clubs would be that all the players I presume are local lads. Cant imagine them travelling too far for part time football with training a couple nights a week. Suppose that’s what makes the lower league clubs more a community family feel as there is the local connection and relationships with the playersI know a Dumbarton player and they travel on the day to Peterhead/Elgin if it’s a 3.00 kick off they're away by 9am from their arranged meeting point. They went to Elgin in November/December only to have to turn half up because the pitch failed a pitch inspection.
Another question I suppose I have regarding the league 1 and below part time clubs would be that all the players I presume are local lads. Cant imagine them travelling too far for part time football with training a couple nights a week. Suppose that’s what makes the lower league clubs more a community family feel as there is the local connection and relationships with the players
That’s madness. Irish league over here has part time players but furthest you would need to travel would be and hour and a half at most.
But Scotland has some massive distances between clubs which is mental for part time teams
Arranging a Doctor is not hard there are literally thousands of them on the locum register looking for easy money.Think one of the changes to Bronze Level is having an official Club Doctor present at every game, which I imagine could be difficult to arrange for some clubs.
Saw someone earlier in the thread having a dig at Beith for not having any floodlights, as far as I’m aware they’re still trying to overcome some complicated legal issues to get planning permission for their park as nobody actually owns it. Something to do with the ground being in the ownership of a trust which has no living trustees and hasn’t for many years. I think that once that is sorted they’re ready to crack on with installation.
Regarding Buckie, reading between the lines did they ever want to be promoted?
I am sure I read or heard that Stranraer train in Glasgow.Arbroath train in Perth as most of their players are from the central belt.I’m sure I saw someone from Peterhead interviewed and he said they train in Dundee as they have so many players from Glasgow or the central belt.
Then they trek up to Peterhead for games at a weekend.
Stranraer were training in kilwinning last season.I am sure I read or heard that Stranraer train in Glasgow.Arbroath train in Perth as most of their players are from the central belt.
I’m sure I saw someone from Peterhead interviewed and he said they train in Dundee as they have so many players from Glasgow or the central belt.
Then they trek up to Peterhead for games at a weekend.
A lot of the managers and coaches will be based in central Scotland as well.I remember Si Ferry saying on open goal they trained in Dundee at least once a week.
Him and all the Glasgow based players got a minibus up on the Friday night and would stay in Aberdeen the night before home games I’m sure.
It’s probably pretty common in the lower leagues. A guy I knew got a coaching gig at Gretna about ten years ago and asked me to sign for them training once a week down there and once a week with a team in Glasgow
Do you follow the southern Irish league at all, bohemians, drogheda etc?A lot of the managers and coaches will be based in central Scotland as well.
Thats some journey just for training. How often do they train?Queen of the South train in Hamilton. They used to use the David Lloyd gym there but were papped out for annoying members.
That might not be financially feasible for many of the clubs.
Why? What if you don’t want to move up?
Thats some journey just for training. How often do they train?
But not if it's introduced only during the season and when clubs already in the league don't have the certificate. It's a nonsense. The ground at Buckie can participate in the Scottish cup, potentially against premiership clubs but can't host a league two match with Stranraer? This is simply a case of SPFL clubs doing all they can to make it harder for themselves to be relegated. And Buckie clearly didn't chuck it. They battled through about six games in 12 days to clinch that title.Because then you make a mockery of the competition.
Do teams "chuck" the last couple of games to avoid going to the playoff if they don't want to and hand points to other teams?
It's a competition. If teams aren't actively participating in it, the entire integrity of it is wasted.
You need a licence to play in the league itself that's not far from the Bronze requirement anyway. It's should be a prerequisite.
Thats some journey just for training. How often do they train?
QoSouth are still full-time I think they were last season after been relegated to League 1 and have been since 2007/08Thats some journey just for training. How often do they train?
Yea - played Montrose in the play off final, were leading by a goal in the 2nd leg at Montrose not long left either and blew it (the rumours were at the time they didn't want up so not sure if this was some of the reason)Think it was Brora Rangers
Peterhead had a French player a few years back who lived in Manchester. He used to get the overnight Megabus on a Friday to Glasgow then get the train to wherever they were playing early doors on the Saturday morning.I’m sure I saw someone from Peterhead interviewed and he said they train in Dundee as they have so many players from Glasgow or the central belt.
Then they trek up to Peterhead for games at a weekend.
Won’t be this season even though we have an outside chance. 7 games in 15 days or so with 6 being away from home means we will falter auto the players being knackered.Be interesting to see what happens if Talbot go up.
No I don’t.i think most of the clubs in the top league are full time.certainly the big dublin clubs are full time.most of them have gone through financial crisis.ten or so years ago drogheda spent big and ended up winning the title and playing in Europe.it bit them on the arse and they almost went out of business.only time I have set foot on drogheda utd’s ground was when linfield played down here in the setanta cup.Do you follow the southern Irish league at all, bohemians, drogheda etc?
Are they full or part time? Or same as up here with the Irish league that half are full time half are part time. But difference with NI is that an hour and a half at most takes you anywhere in the country whereas the republic is a hell of a bit bigger
Why didn't the Scottish football bosses come down equally as " hard" on Dundee for their multiple breaches of the rules for having an unplayable pitch? After their second call off, shouldn't they have been warned that if they didn't fulfil their league obligations and have a playable pitch then they risked being demoted to the championship regardless of where they finished in the league?Fair enough from the SPFL for once - very much sounds like Buckie just didn’t fancy it
But not if it's introduced only during the season and when clubs already in the league don't have the certificate. It's a nonsense. The ground at Buckie can participate in the Scottish cup, potentially against premiership clubs but can't host a league two match with Stranraer? This is simply a case of SPFL clubs doing all they can to make it harder for themselves to be relegated. And Buckie clearly didn't chuck it. They battled through about six games in 12 days to clinch that title.
Nonsense, teams haven ambition to win the league so why would they throw games. If they then feel the requirements needed to move up are not worth it or they feel it’s not a league they want to play in them that’s up to them. So of UEFA pit in place criteria to play in the CL and it would cost us £50 million, if we decided that want worth it would you expect us to throw the league? Same thingBecause then you make a mockery of the competition.
Do teams "chuck" the last couple of games to avoid going to the playoff if they don't want to and hand points to other teams?
It's a competition. If teams aren't actively participating in it, the entire integrity of it is wasted.
You need a licence to play in the league itself that's not far from the Bronze requirement anyway. It's should be a prerequisite.
Nonsense, teams haven ambition to win the league so why would they throw games. If they then feel the requirements needed to move up are not worth it or they feel it’s not a league they want to play in them that’s up to them. So of UEFA pit in place criteria to play in the CL and it would cost us £50 million, if we decided that want worth it would you expect us to throw the league? Same thing
In that case relegate the clubs already in the league who also don't have the bronze licence yet. Buckie's new lights are already ordered and waiting to be put up amongst other demands.Whereas Brechin spent money to get the licence in place and suffered as a result of that?
It's not just about whether the ground is safe. It's not that hard to get the licence. It's not that different to their own participation licence.
If you can't sort that sort of thing out, you shouldn't be competing in a league that allows you access to the top professional set up.
We make enough excuses for the site state of Scottish football. Not managing simple admin isn't an excuse that should be granted.
Some sense!In that case relegate the clubs already in the league who also don't have the bronze licence yet. Buckie's new lights are already ordered and waiting to be put up amongst other demands.
What's next? A silver licence if you have a hedge? Buckie is a well run club with hospitality facilities other clubs of a certain level can only dream about. If it's all about admin why are Dundee not being demoted to the highland league?
In that case relegate the clubs already in the league who also don't have the bronze licence yet. Buckie's new lights are already ordered and waiting to be put up amongst other demands.
What's next? A silver licence if you have a hedge? Buckie is a well run club with hospitality facilities other clubs of a certain level can only dream about. If it's all about admin why are Dundee not being demoted to the highland league?
Brechin don't have the license , 5 league clubs don't have the license including Airdrie who could well be in top tier next seasonWhereas Brechin spent money to get the licence in place and suffered as a result of that?
It's not just about whether the ground is safe. It's not that hard to get the licence. It's not that different to their own participation licence.
If you can't sort that sort of thing out, you shouldn't be competing in a league that allows you access to the top professional set up.
We make enough excuses for the site state of Scottish football. Not managing simple admin isn't an excuse that should be granted.
Brechin had put everything in place to get a licence and they spent a considerable amount to be ready.Brechin don't have the license , 5 league clubs don't have the license including Airdrie who could well be in top tier next season
I clearly state there that if Buckie are being affected then so too should Dundee.You think Dundee should just carry on un-checked?
I think mentioning them strengthens my very point. They shouldn't be allowed in the SPL if they're going to neglect the very basics required for playing a game of football.
If it was that well run, they'd have pissed the application for a simple Bronze licence.
When teams with similar means can do it, there's something wrong with their process and setup.
but yet they don't have it , Buckie have also done similar like the floodlight upgrade , the league has basically pulled the rug from under Buckies feet here as it is not yet May 15th............Just seeing in the newspapers GS posted up that Brechin had spent a considerable amount of many to put things in place to get the bronze license.
Based on that document the SFA and SPFL have got a bit of explaining to do.but yet they don't have it , Buckie have also done similar like the floodlight upgrade , the league has basically pulled the rug from under Buckies feet here as it is not yet May 15th............
Buckie Thistle Football Club would like to issue the following addition to last night's statement on the SPFL Pyramid Play-offs:
"The club is endeavouring to get to the bottom of the decision to remove us from this weekend's play-off semi final against East Kilbride FC."
"Club officials attended meetings and had discussions with both the SPFL and SFA on Tuesday and Wednesday this week, but no indication was given at any point that Saturday's fixture was in doubt."
"Attached is a screenshot from the Decision Note issued by the SFA, which clearly states a decision on the Bronze Licence is deferred until the 15th of May. Buckie Thistle were awarded derogations on 3 of the items mentioned, and given until 15th May to resolve the Medical items."
"After further discussions with the SFA this morning, we are now looking into the possibility of taking this to Arbitration, as per Article 99 of the SFA handbook."
"Further updates will be provided in due course."
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think the May 15th has been taken 2 different ways , Buckie thought they had up to that date to show work done and work to be done but think the 15th was for the SFA's deadline plus there's not replying to a few messages by Jags PresidentBased on that document the SFA and SPFL have got a bit of explaining to do.
common sense as per usual with anything involving SPFL/SFA is absent as per ............ corruption also being mentioned due to this licensing wanting clubs to fork out before knowing if they'll be promoted , Scottish football hardly awash with cashBit of a farce that the potential for promotion is taken away because they haven't yet hired a doctor for home games based on the above.
When a) they haven't played the various playoff games b) if they win those games the season doesn't start for another 3 months.
Must be gutting for players, staff and fans currently.