chilebear
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We’ve had worse than Bain in chargeI think Martin Bain was a one-off, at least I hope he effing was
We’ve had worse than Bain in chargeI think Martin Bain was a one-off, at least I hope he effing was
We were also an absolute basket case at that time due to the SD/Elite situation. Adidas or Nike weren’t exactly falling over themselves to sign a deal with a club that were literally hawking shirts out of a container round the back of the Louden. Bisgrove and the Castore deal have normalised Rangers retail operations and put us in a far better positionI am not comparing the retail sales, just the actual commercial contract for being the kit supplier. Castore deal was reported £20 million over 5 years. Their deal with Adidas was reported £30 million over 5 years. Both deals were signed in 2020 and we included the retail distribution as part of the agreement so we have sold away more for less.
Defo budEspecially when it’s the big change/s that we all wanted and have been vocal about.
We’ve got what we asked for. Let’s just see how it goes next and we can have an opinion, good or bad then.
The important thing is the upper management has been freshened up. Let’s be positive because we became very stale upstairs.
He’s running the business he will hold the football department accountable I’m sureThere is no doubt that JB performed very well in his role as Marketing Director.What bothers me is what does he actually know about football?
I wish him well in his new role.
It’s his job to bring it to the table. He can’t turn down a potential 3/4 million pound opportunity on his own without bringing it to his bosses. It’s then up to them to either accept the proposal or turn it downThe fact he even brought it to the table is a concern. Of he doesn't know the feelings of the fans about that then he will benout of his depth as CEO
Nonsense.if Castore suggested we'd make £5m from green and white hooped away tops would you honest expect him to take that to the board?It’s his job to bring it to the table. He can’t turn down a potential 3/4 million pound opportunity on his own without bringing it to his bosses. It’s then up to them to either accept the proposal or turn it down
Plus they don't have a fucking clue what the role involves anyway. They think it's about releasing shouty statements about cheating refs and paedos.Greety faced moaners as usual.Yous get what you want then greet cos you didn’t get the one you want.Give the guy a chance ffs.
Nonsense? So a promoter comes to the table with a proposal for Rangers to take part in a tournament and earn up to £4 million and you expect the commercial director to turn that down without even raising it with his bosses?Nonsense.if Castore suggested we'd make £5m from green and white hooped away tops would you honest expect him to take that to the board?
I agree with this in theory but a point was made on H&H that was interesting;Delighted Robertson is gone. Great fan pressure has helped enforce change at the club.
Not the biggest fan of Bisgrove - the Sydney debacle and his passionate defence of it shows to me he doesn’t really get what being a Ranger is. I am hoping the reaction to that smartened him up and now he does get it. As another bear said, it’s his job to understand it now.
Fresh ideas and fresh impetus hopefully - the quarterly meeting is a great start. Wish him every success in the role!
Robertson just had to go, he helped moved the club forward but he wasn’t strong enough, a very nice guy but I want a demon in charge who will not bow down to our enemies.
Excuse me?Whit? Behave yourself
Have said much the same myself.I agree with this in theory but a point was made on H&H that was interesting;
Bisgrove was the commercial guy, so it’s his job to maximise profitability. If he proposed such a stupid idea to the board, it was then on them to look at it and go “absolutely not, the fans would not find that palatable”
And yet, they didn’t. They only went & fücking approved it
I remain sceptical that Bisgrove has the skill set for this role, but time will tell.
I would like to think such a stupid idea wouldn’t be proposed in the first place. But it was AND approved. It was more his passionate defence of it that’s more concerning.I agree with this in theory but a point was made on H&H that was interesting;
Bisgrove was the commercial guy, so it’s his job to maximise profitability. If he proposed such a stupid idea to the board, it was then on them to look at it and go “absolutely not, the fans would not find that palatable”
And yet, they didn’t. They only went & fücking approved it
I remain sceptical that Bisgrove has the skill set for this role, but time will tell.
His commercial idea actually ended up potentially costing us money though if we have to pay anything to get out of it. His real passionate defence of his idea as well draws concern.Have said much the same myself.
Bisgrove in a commercial capacity had a duty to maximise revenues for the club. People like that will throw out every idea they can think of and it's up to those above them to qualify and accept/reject.
The challenge for Bisgrove will be qualifying those ideas from others, himself.
I’m fully in agreement with you here mate.I would like to think such a stupid idea wouldn’t be proposed in the first place. But it was AND approved. It was more his passionate defence of it that’s more concerning.
But as I say, hopefully that has smartened him up and he realises that under no circumstances should we be jumping into bed with Paedo FC.
It’s not James Bisgrove’s idea though. The club get approached about things like that by promoters.His commercial idea actually ended up potentially costing us money though if we have to pay anything to get out of it. His real passionate defence of his idea as well draws concern.
Agree with your final point - he is now the approver rather than the inputter - big difference and hopefully he smashes the challenge.
Don’t forget Andrew Dickson too, don’t forget him.Only James Blair to be pushed now. Come on John Bennet you know you want too.
Nonsense? So a promoter comes to the table with a proposal for Rangers to take part in a tournament and earn up to £4 million and you expect the commercial director to turn that down without even raising it with his bosses?
Anybody who thinks it was his “ commercial idea” is being daft. The club was approached, JB presented it to the Board. The Board approved it.His commercial idea actually ended up potentially costing us money though if we have to pay anything to get out of it. His real passionate defence of his idea as well draws concern.
Agree with your final point - he is now the approver rather than the inputter - big difference and hopefully he smashes the challenge.
Great bunch o' lads!What's the general opinion of Bisgrove?
Devil's Advocate here. Let's say the proposal had been £3m to take part in a tournament in the USA involving us, the Dhims and a US team. Maybe in Miami or Los Angeles for example. No 'Ange Homecoming' nonsense, just football. Would Bisgrove still have been wrong?By the sounds of things, we were approached to take part way before it was apparent celtic were going to have success under postecoglu as well. Dave King was still involved with the board at the time IIRC, so likely was mooted even before the aussie had taken over at Celtic.
His performance in our commercial department certainly seems impressive enough, with us reaching record commercial revenue so he certainly seems competent.What's the general opinion of Bisgrove?
Mainly the fault of social media. Anyone can shout loudly from behind a keyboard while being anonymous. Makes small people feel important.I am an old guy who has been supporting Rangers since the 1950’s. Some great experiences and memories along with heartbreaks and big disappointments. One disappointment that has surfaced, particularly in recent years, is the increasing number of followers of our club who seem to go out of their way to find fault with nearly every decision taken on behalf of our club.
Since his appointment our commercial activities have seen tremendous gains. I’d imagine he will ensure that the progress made continues. Did Stewart Robertson appoint him or did someone else bring him on board?A good appointment imho
my worry is who gets Bisgrove’s job
No really bisgrove im getting atBisgrove was doing exactly what he was paid to do with the Australia friendly thing.
More behind the scenes dirty nasty bastardLawwell is back at the Dhims now, though not as CEO. Hasn’t uttered a word. Their ‘new’ CEO, appointed in Dec 21 has said nothing of note either. Most on here probably don’t even know his name.
I‘d say it’s highly unlikely that we will ever have the raging, pit bull type of CEO some on here want, ranting and raving in the media every day. King had a go at it and found himself, generally, the subject of ridicule.
Does that job include going after Doncaster, MacLennan, Allan, Mulraney and every other rhat that is dancing to the Paedophile enablers' tune?Delighted that spineless git is leaving, And think that Bisgrove will surprise a few, hes done a tremendous job at the club and i think he will do an outstanding job.
Another sarcastic poster who should give it rest, boring boring boringEverything is hunky dory then. Wilson and Robertson gone, that's what everyone wanted. Watch us hoover up the trophies now.
It cannot be done without support from other clubs but FF doesn’t like bridge building……Does that job include going after Doncaster, MacLennan, Allan, Mulraney and every other rhat that is dancing to the Paedophile enablers' tune?
That's the war that needs to be won. That's the wall that needs smashed to bits. It's a huge task especially with no friends anywhere.
I don’t literally mean he conjured it up lol he’s allowed to be criticised mate his passionate defence of it was embarrassingAnybody who thinks it was his “ commercial idea” is being daft. The club was approached, JB presented it to the Board. The Board approved it.
Has Bisgrove got enough experience in agreeing player contracts? With no DOF, I’m assuming it will be down to our CEO to agreeing contract but with so many players being bought and sold this summer he will need help and soon as possible.
Think the title change is important. CEO title would imply he is running the executive function, the part that operates the day to day business. That would mean any replacement for Ross Wilson would report through him.He’ll know plenty about football, but his role isn’t to be an expert.
He’s running a business.
He needs good people skills, communication, judgement and business acumen.
My worry is his judgement. It’s a very different role than previous. No longer can he be allowed to make reckless choices based on solely commercial growth.
Interesting to see if he can pivot.
He’s Bennett’s golden boy, so he’ll have the backing.
What about 50m?Nonsense.if Castore suggested we'd make £5m from green and white hooped away tops would you honest expect him to take that to the board?