Nnamdi Ofoborh

Bloody shame for the boy,we have to remember,that yes it’s crap we have a player being paid,when he’s not kicked a ball,as it seems a waste of money,but he’s just a human being,who doesn’t want to be injured and attending hospital appointments and watching his mates,train and play,and win trophies.I believe he was misdiagnosed? and only hope we can get him through this terrible time in his life,and get him on the park playing for the famous hopefully
 
CrocodileDundee said:
Another in a long line of absolute shit shows from our medical dept. These types of signings just never seem to happen at Celtic yet we constantly get guys who hardly ever play.
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I can't believe after another horrendous injury plagued season where minor knocks became long term injuries and the hapless medical /physio staff are still there
 
CrocodileDundee said:
Another in a long line of absolute shit shows from our medical dept. These types of signings just never seem to happen at Celtic yet we constantly get guys who hardly ever play.
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Honestly where do you begin with this. Our medical dept found the issue. Bournemouth his previous club didn't. You blaming our medical dept for finding a life threatening issue with the blokes heart.

You are an idiot.
 
RH_2020 said:
I thought he was entering his last year? We should just offer him a payoff. He will never play, will never be sold.
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Would you honestly feel comfortable with that?

“Look kid, you’re never going to play again and are taking up a wage someone else could be getting. We’ve supported you long enough. Here’s a generous pay off. Good luck!”

Chances are we have an indemnity against this anyway and aren’t liable for his full wages with insurance covering the rest, but I wouldn’t have a problem paying him up until the end of his deal if that’s what was required.
 
I wish him all the best in his life and what has happened has been world-changing for him, but I would never expect to see him on the pitch playing for us.
 
sheddensbear said:
How come Inter missed Eriksson heart failure? Or Spurs ? Or Ajax ?.
Phil O'Donnell ?
Some heart conditions can't be picked up in a medical.
Any other reasons to have a go ?
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The almost obsessive need to trash every element of the club by some on here is utterly depressing. Frankly I have zero expectation that the lad will ever play for us or anyone for that matter, but will add his long term health is surely of far greater importance.
 
Feel sorry for the boy. Came to us to further his career and it look`s like he may never get the chance. Hopefully he can get himself sorted and go on to have a decent career. We have a duty of care with our players and the thought of paying him to leave whilst he is still receiving treatment would be an extremely bad look for the club. Just hope for the player he does actually manage to play again at some level.
 
I detest social.media and the cryptic post culture.
Say what you want to say or shut the fcuk up.
 
I think it’s clear the young man will almost certainly never play football again.

It must be so tough mentally for a young player to have the world at his feet and have that all taken away from him in a moment through no fault of his own.

The club are rightly doing their best by him.
 
CrocodileDundee said:
Another in a long line of absolute shit shows from our medical dept. These types of signings just never seem to happen at Celtic yet we constantly get guys who hardly ever play.
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It was our medical department that discovered his heart problem.

Look at Sergio Aguero for an example of how it can easily go undetected.
 
HandsomeHead said:
Would you honestly feel comfortable with that?

“Look kid, you’re never going to play again and are taking up a wage someone else could be getting. We’ve supported you long enough. Here’s a generous pay off. Good luck!”

Chances are we have an indemnity against this anyway and aren’t liable for his full wages with insurance covering the rest, but I wouldn’t have a problem paying him up until the end of his deal if that’s what was required.
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Exactly. We don't just need to consider the impact to Rangers. Consider this poor boys perspective and mental health, and for anyone still critical try putting yourself in his position.
 
CrocodileDundee said:
Another in a long line of absolute shit shows from our medical dept. These types of signings just never seem to happen at Celtic yet we constantly get guys who hardly ever play.
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Doubt our medical dept would have anything to do with this.

The club will pay for a private hospital to carry out the heart checks during the medical process.
 
Why do people think that it's the clubs fault? All medicals are carried out by an independent organisation based in England.
 
HandsomeHead said:
Would you honestly feel comfortable with that?

“Look kid, you’re never going to play again and are taking up a wage someone else could be getting. We’ve supported you long enough. Here’s a generous pay off. Good luck!”

Chances are we have an indemnity against this anyway and aren’t liable for his full wages with insurance covering the rest, but I wouldn’t have a problem paying him up until the end of his deal if that’s what was required.
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It’s a perfectly reasonable offer to offer him 80p in the pound (or whatever) and let him get on with his life without wasting another 2 years up here. He might be able to move closer to home etc. etc. etc.

I’ve already said that if a deal were to be struck then it would be reasonable to keep the medical side of things going for the remainder of original contract, but we have no moral or contractual obligation beyond this.

The argument about taking a wage someone else could get doesn’t really stack up since you would be offering to pay up the majority of his contract, or even 100% of the contract - I don’t mind. It’s about freeing up a squad place and moving on, for all concerned.
 
McCoist’sTinHat said:
To those suggesting we just pay up his deal, do you realise what sort of message that sends?

We’ve just communicated that we’re going to support Steven Davis’ rehab, which is the right thing to do. Why would we wash our hands of someone who is under contract? Other players, especially those with reservations around specific injuries they might have had would see that as a massive red flag if we tried to sign them.

Then there’s the human element. When someone is at their lowest point, they need a support structure and people around then, not sent a letter from their employer saying their final payment will be with them soon and not to return to the training ground.

Too many people think it’s like football manager with a wee drop-down to ‘release’ and that’s it. We signed the player, and in the business we’re in we accept that risk that we’re employing athletes.
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Spot on with everything you say here. But to add to your points as well, imagine we take a chunk out our summer transfer budget to pay him off - that could be a pre-contracts signing on fee we can’t pay as we’re paying years worth of wages in a lump sum. Also from a financial fair play perspective as well, we are far better paying him his wages until the end of his deal instead of taking a one off hit. Also on a wider scale any business would far prefer paying a liability (the players wages not himself) over a number of years than a one off cost.

As you mentioned the moral points, but also from a financial perspective (which isn’t as important as the points you made) but there’s literally no positive at all in paying him off and for anyone to make that suggestion not only shows a lack of compassion, but just a general lack of business sense.
 
Some folk really need to catch a grip of themselves.

Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Loyal. Words our support like to use on a regular basis. Some bring shame on that though, as soon as there's a setback they turn on the players.

You think Ofoborh wants to be facing the end of his career? Yet you're in here suggesting we "just bin him". For having the audacity to have a life threatening condition discovered?

Grow up.

As for his social media, nobody is forced to read it. Perhaps his family and friends know exactly what he was referring to. He owes random folk following him no explanations.
 
Commander Bjorklund said:
Spot on with everything you say here. But to add to your points as well, imagine we take a chunk out our summer transfer budget to pay him off - that could be a pre-contracts signing on fee we can’t pay as we’re paying years worth of wages in a lump sum. Also from a financial fair play perspective as well, we are far better paying him his wages until the end of his deal instead of taking a one off hit. Also on a wider scale any business would far prefer paying a liability (the players wages not himself) over a number of years than a one off cost.

As you mentioned the moral points, but also from a financial perspective (which isn’t as important as the points you made) but there’s literally no positive at all in paying him off and for anyone to make that suggestion not only shows a lack of compassion, but just a general lack of business sense.
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The only positive would be in the minds of those who have a touch of OCD and want a clear out, the type who prefer releasing a player over a loan deal and think we’re only being ran well when we have a perfect 18 man squad who are all fit and contributing.

Even Celtic are still carrying duds from 3 years ago because of the financial reasons you mentioned.
 
vicbex said:
I think we should give him an extension. We cant have him worrying about finances when he's ill.
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No we shouldn’t, feel bad for him but when his contract is up he should be let go.
We need those wages to go on players that are going to contribute.
We really can’t afford players who won’t be able to play.
 
MrMols said:
No we shouldn’t, feel bad for him but when his contract is up he should be let go.
We need those wages to go on players that are going to contribute.
We really can’t afford players who won’t be able to play.
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I thought his health was more important than Rangers winning a few trophies?
 
omega said:
Exactly. We don't just need to consider the impact to Rangers. Consider this poor boys perspective and mental health, and for anyone still critical try putting yourself in his position.
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Give him a new contract so he doesnt need to worry about finances.
 
Al Needham Loyal said:
Some folk really need to catch a grip of themselves.

Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Loyal. Words our support like to use on a regular basis. Some bring shame on that though, as soon as there's a setback they turn on the players.

You think Ofoborh wants to be facing the end of his career? Yet you're in here suggesting we "just bin him". For having the audacity to have a life threatening condition discovered?

Grow up.

As for his social media, nobody is forced to read it. Perhaps his family and friends know exactly what he was referring to. He owes random folk following him no explanations.
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And under employment law you could say he’s unable to fulfil the duties of his contract and should be terminated.

Just because he’s a footballer doesn’t make him different to any employee the world over who are managed the same way.

I’ve had this debate several times and you’ll never convince me I’m wrong.

Rangers have shown a duty of care in all the treatment, specialists, wages etc. A line had to be drawn somewhere.
 
Al Needham Loyal said:
Some folk really need to catch a grip of themselves.

Once a Ranger, always a Ranger. Loyal. Words our support like to use on a regular basis. Some bring shame on that though, as soon as there's a setback they turn on the players.

You think Ofoborh wants to be facing the end of his career? Yet you're in here suggesting we "just bin him". For having the audacity to have a life threatening condition discovered?

Grow up.

As for his social media, nobody is forced to read it. Perhaps his family and friends know exactly what he was referring to. He owes random folk following him no explanations.
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Best Post I've read today. Some folk appear to not even know about basic human decency.
 
vicbex said:
I thought his health was more important than Rangers winning a few trophies?
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I never said his health wasn’t important, of course his health is.

He should be given till the end of the season and who knows he might even start playing football but if not the I think he should be let go.

Just my opinion, obviously whatever the club decides I’ll support them in whatever decision they make.
 
Madjid Moments said:
And under employment law you could say he’s unable to fulfil the duties of his contract and should be terminated.

Just because he’s a footballer doesn’t make him different to any employee the world over who are managed the same way.

I’ve had this debate several times and you’ll never convince me I’m wrong.

Rangers have shown a duty of care in all the treatment, specialists, wages etc. A line had to be drawn somewhere.
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So where is the line?

If it's the same as any other employee in the world, then Durrant, Butcher, McLaren, Mols, McCoist, right up to Hagi now would all have been gone after 1 year of being unable to fulfil the duties of their contract. Explain why they're different?

Should their injury time be calculated on a rolling basis too, so if they miss more than a certain percentage of games across a period they're gone?

That's what happens elsewhere.

Equally, I presume you're on board with no injury updates due to confidentiality laws?
 
MrMols said:
No we shouldn’t, feel bad for him but when his contract is up he should be let go.
We need those wages to go on players that are going to contribute.
We really can’t afford players who won’t be able to play.
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"let go"

Again, how? we are legally obliged to fulfill the terms of his contract.

There is zero incentive to him to agree to anything that allows us to save on his wages.
 
MagneticFields said:
"let go"

Again, how? we are legally obliged to fulfill the terms of his contract.

There is zero incentive to him to agree to anything that allows us to save on his wages.
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I never said let go. I said after his contract is up we should let him go if he’s unable to play.
 
Al Needham Loyal said:
So where is the line?

If it's the same as any other employee in the world, then Durrant, Butcher, McLaren, Mols, McCoist, right up to Hagi now would all have been gone after 1 year of being unable to fulfil the duties of their contract. Explain why they're different?

Should their injury time be calculated on a rolling basis too, so if they miss more than a certain percentage of games across a period they're gone?

That's what happens elsewhere.

Equally, I presume you're on board with no injury updates due to confidentiality laws?
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Nonsense mate.

Every player listed played and contributed to the club and their contract. That is the difference, this lad through poor luck hasn’t been able too. Rangers have maintained their end of the contract and he isn’t able too, so like any other employment you would need to question ability and fitness to do your job.

The club have helped treatment, diagnosis and most likely education towards his future career endeavours, but that only goes so far.

I’ve said this before. I was a pe teacher, then through life changing circumstances had to have life saving surgery. It was clear I couldn’t do that job so I was aided to retrain, gain qualifications and transfered into my new career. I was supported and cared for by my employer. This is exactly the same circumstances and employ law back it up.

Just because the lad is a footballer, it’s no different.
 
Coplandbear said:
Think the latest news was he was to see another specialist as there was debate about whether he could return to light training or not.

Of course the player has a contract and we will fulfil it the club have a duty of care so fully expect us to do everything we can to help and support the player and hopefully he can get his health issues sorted.
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I don't agree. Nothing against the guy at all. We signed him to do a job though. I believe he is incapable of doing it.
Should the lawyers and insurers not get together and strike a deal for a pay off?
I genuinely hope the guy gets healthy and wish him no I'll will at all, but he will never kick a ball for us.
 
MagneticFields said:
"let go"

Again, how? we are legally obliged to fulfill the terms of his contract.

There is zero incentive to him to agree to anything that allows us to save on his wages.
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Are these contracts one way? Doesnt matter if the 'player' ever plays just as long as we keep paying everything is fine.
 
Madjid Moments said:
And under employment law you could say he’s unable to fulfil the duties of his contract and should be terminated.

Just because he’s a footballer doesn’t make him different to any employee the world over who are managed the same way.

I’ve had this debate several times and you’ll never convince me I’m wrong.

Rangers have shown a duty of care in all the treatment, specialists, wages etc. A line had to be drawn somewhere.
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Dont you believe in virtue signalling?
 
MrMols said:
No we shouldn’t, feel bad for him but when his contract is up he should be let go.
We need those wages to go on players that are going to contribute.
We really can’t afford players who won’t be able to play.
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Are you of the same opinion of Steven Davis or does it only fit certain players in terms of being let go? We’re paying all his medical costs and helping with his recovery now while he’s out of contract?
 
Lovenkrands26 said:
Are you of the same opinion of Steven Davis or does it only fit certain players in terms of being let go? We’re paying all his medical costs and helping with his recovery now while he’s out of contract?
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I’m of the same opinion as all of our players but like I said it’s only my opinion and whatever the club decides then so be it.
 
We won’t be paying this guys wages, he will be getting paid via insurance. Most blue chip orgs have a 6mths period of company sick pay and then insurance kicks in to either pay in full for a set period of time or pay a percentage for a set period of time. In football I’d imagine it will be a paid in full for timeline of the contract by the insurance company. Sometimes insurance companies will look to settle and cut a deal with the recipient if they believe it could suit both parties.
 
WATP said:
We won’t be paying this guys wages, he will be getting paid via insurance. Most blue chip orgs have a 6mths period of company sick pay and then insurance kicks in to either pay in full for a set period of time or pay a percentage for a set period of time. In football I’d imagine it will be a paid in full for timeline of the contract by the insurance company. Sometimes insurance companies will look to settle and cut a deal with the recipient if they believe it could suit both parties.
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I would hope Rangers have a bit more empathy than treating him as a "recipient". Could happen to any player.

Some of the language used when talking about the young guy is profoundly unsympathetic.
 
Such a shame for the guy he’s had a torrid time the past few years. Hopefully he’s getting closer to playing again, whether it’s here or elsewhere.
 
vicbex said:
Are these contracts one way? Doesnt matter if the 'player' ever plays just as long as we keep paying everything is fine.
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What do you think happens if we are trying to sign a player, and one club will fulfill their contractual obligations and pay players if they get a career threatening injury, and we will cut them adrift?

we won’t be signing anybody in that case.
 
MagneticFields said:
What do you think happens if we are trying to sign a player, and one club will fulfill their contractual obligations and pay players if they get a career threatening injury, and we will cut them adrift?

we won’t be signing anybody in that case.
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Good. The last thing we need is another batch of crocks who get paid millions for being unavailable. I guess you dont mind watching the tims overtake us.

By the way anyone more interested in sick pay than win bonuses isnt worth buying.

Our sick list this year isnt down to bad luck.
 
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