The apparent push that Alfredo was punished for against Kilmarnock, Griffiths push on the lead up to Celtics 1st goal against Aberdeen can someone explain the difference(apart from the obvious)
There was no push. The defender mistimed his jump then fell about like a winged duck.
Personally I think Beaton disallowed it because it was Alfie. The demonisation of him as a cheat (his swan dive earlier didn’t admittedly help his cause) saw the ref blow almost out of habit.
“Ah, it’s Morelos. Must have been a push then.”
Again, our failure to even highlight it actually only serves to support that view.
One day we’ll learn how to play the game.
Or maybe not.
Regardless of your opinion about how VAR affects the game......it will provide a layer of accountability.....the most blatant decisions will be made obvious to those calling them.....
Right now we have after the match Twitter photographs or fan video footage
But after the match media content does no good at all!
That’s being said VAR will only come to Scotland if these awful refereeing decisions start piling up on the tims doorstep.....While the status quo is works in their favor they will have zero interest in changing anything.....
I have issues with referees. But I also have issues with Steven Gerrard’s reluctance to complain about them. Lennon has never allowed an opportunity to complain about referees, the SFA, Compliance Officer etc., either in his first spell when he caused a referees’ strike or in his current spell. As a result referees bend over backwards for his team.
I’d take VAR right now.
Off the top of my head, we’d be something like half a dozen points better off this season and may have won a bit of silverware into the bargain.
The threshold was passed a long time ago – the Beaton vs Hibs game. Gerrard obviously has different things to consider, different reasons for doing certain things, so his threshold is different.
I totally agree with you, it's costing us points which is costing the club financially and is also costing Gerrard's managerial career – surely we're at the point that this outweighs his concerns about being perceived as a moaner/sour-grapes merchant or giving the refs a hard time? Complaining every time is what we need to do and I do think it would have an impact, but I also fear it's too late.
I wonder how much of this is down to the Referee summit that Gerrard attended last season about the abuse they get, the difficulty of their job and the effect manager's comments have on their life. It really seemed to have an impact on Gerrard and I think that's playing a part in him keeping quiet now... but it's time to start putting himself before the Referees when they're so blatantly shafting us/him.
Expect some dodgy decisions to go our way in the next few weeks to show that they are not biased. But only at points in games where they dont actually help us get a result of course.
I think the reason he came out on Sunday is he’s probably re watched the Killie game again & once again saw the clear impact of decisions in that match.
He should have come out after Hampden & then 29.12.
They were disgusting & blatant. Especially the latter.
Excellent post. The really disturbing thing is I cant see this suddenly changing because that in itself will appear like an admission of guilt. But I'd love to see the Mhanks losing 3 of their next 5 games due to ref errors.....their reaction would measure on the Richter Scale.These refs are going to get caught they have already taken the cheating way too far. Cant stop either our enemies demand it in and will expect to see it in the cup ties and the same again next season.
Too obvious, far too many games, an incredible amount of evidence(guy on here that puts the wee videos together should be working at the club) and these games are on live tv. Every single pundit and journo knows about it, ex players, managers of the other teams know play physical get stuck in against Rangers but zero late challenges against the tims as thats a red. If managers and players know the refs are biased towards Celtic then ofcourse it is only natural to suspect there may be cheating in other games between 2 smaller scottish clubs. What about the bookies as well anyone making a few quid betting on the cards ? Plenty for Rangers never any for Celtic.
All these ex refs will know whats happening, our legends Walter, Ally, Gough, Bomber, sure some foreign players watch games on tv, Mols, Amo, Laudrup, everybody knows whats going on out there. None of them will be obssessed or worried the tims views on refs 30 years ago.
Bobby and the guys are cheating one of the most famous british footballers ever out of prizes and a career in management. He might not be saying much at the moment, probably told not too, but im sure he will when he leaves the guy is no coward. He has backroom staff too that wont have seen anything like this in their career.
The refs have made a huge error in thinking that as long as the press is on their side and its Rangers they target then theres no way you get found out. Incredibly reckless just crazy. He cant say what he wants too say but one journo is at least asking a few questions...right dj you next then barry and boyd. There must be more than 1 journo that supports Rangers.
The bbc and radio clyde are now doing sfa/referee propaganda pieces(even more evidence of bias right there) its time for our club to play their game.... do the respectful stuff, the dignity etc, and ask refs, supervisors etc to talk to us educate us about the laws of the game and how difficult the job is. Lets see how comfortable they are when being interviewed by the people they are going out to cheat.
A video? Would be more like a box set.The club has, presumably, a team a video analysts.
Surely there has to be mileage in compiling a video from this season of decisions we feel are questionable, both for and against us and releasing them, saying "Here's where we think we are, let's have a discussion on how we make it better".
Put the onus on others to explain the decisions and work to eradicate the 'mistakes'.
Big refereeing decisions that have gone against Rangers this season....Great article. The thing that strikes me after reading it though, is that there are so many other incidents he could have mentioned. The article could have been doubled in length!
Agreed, I think he was hinting at the Kilmarnock game when saying you can't complain after you've lost.
I want to see more of a selfish/nasty streak from Gerrard now when dealing with anything and anyone outside Rangers.
But isn't this the biggest part of the problem. No-one can tell the truth in this country anymore if it doesn't fit the 'agenda' set by their cult?Because he has to balance it to stop it becoming a rant
It’s a newspaper article,not a blog or fanzine
If he done what you suggested in last paragraph he would be slaughtered
Remember though that it wasn't long ago that all (well most) of the managers including ours had a summit in which they agreed to give referees more respect. Since then however we have been truly fncked over and SG has had to be restrained in his comments.I have issues with referees. But I also have issues with Steven Gerrard’s reluctance to complain about them. Lennon has never allowed an opportunity to complain about referees, the SFA, Compliance Officer etc., either in his first spell when he caused a referees’ strike or in his current spell. As a result referees bend over backwards for his team.
This is on Gerrard I’m afraid, he underestimated how bitter this country is. If you don’t fight your players corner over every absurd decision you will be trampled all over and risk losing respect in the dressing room. Morelos already has a ‘why should I bother’ look about him. No wonder - he scores, it’s disallowed, he gets clattered - no punishment, he as much as raises a finger - he’s booked.
But isn't this the biggest part of the problem. No-one can tell the truth in this country anymore if it doesn't fit the 'agenda' set by their cult?
Since when do we play by their rules? They certainly aren't retrained in the media when they want to go full moonhowler which they do regularly and en masse. So why should we restrain ourselves from stating facts, just because they wont like them?
Edit: In short, why is it always us that need to be seen to be being fair minded, at the expense of actual balance? We pander to them.
It's long overdue that the Club should act. Clancy should've been demoted along with one or two others,okay the team have slipped somewhat,but decisions have undoubtedly had a bearing on results. You could be forgiven for thinking some were on the payroll at Celtic it's that obvious now.The Club need to get a legal team up to Hampden to highlight every inconsistency and threaten legal action. There is no other option as it's what that lot did the last time Lennon was in charge and are now reaping the benefits.
There is no doubt that, for whatever reason, The Club are being refereed to a different standard which has been clearly evident for the past 3 seasons. The most likely reason is the pro-Celt!c culture at Hampden with every department now being infiltrated by those indoctrinated of the same ilk.
I’ve no idea.What's the rules (if any) with VAR, do the ref's decide if they go to the VAR or is that a decision from the telly watchers?
Likewise, nobody will disagree that our standards have dropped massively.I don’t think anyone will disagree with that. Terrible decisions and they weren’t the only ones.
But us being crap and dropping our standards is also happening, it’s two separate things.
We should be announcing that we have been cheated by refs decisions and stop pussy footing about with honest mistakes etc etc etc
Small mercies and all that but don't expect the pack of hounds in our media at large to back him up .
Been far far too slow on this score, that's for sure.I know you’re right BABN, but our club NOW needs to be more sleekit & to get known Rangers minded guys to HTC & have private discussions to ask for their help.
McDougall, Jack & there are probably more who will come out if prompted & told of our thoughts at SG level.
There’s a balance & line to find before it sounds like some guy rambling with a tinfoil hat
This place gets on my tits. We moan when someone does nothing, someone does and it’s not enough
Nailed it? He says it's not the reason. He also doesn't comment on the 2 game changing decisions that went for Celtc in the Hamilton games.
Why is "less said the better" a decent comment about Clancy?????????
Missing the point - yes at last someone has had the gonads to comment but it could easier been stronger without sounding like the ramblings of someone with a tin foil hat ( got to admit never seen one or someone wearing one. I guess it has the effect of turning the wearing into Joe the Loonie or mental Phil?)
I think him saying less said the better is actually spot on, not only does it infer his incompetence but it actually shows contempt towards the cheating fvkk.
I’m missing the point? You sure it’s me?
I’m missing the point? You sure it’s me?
Less is key - I’m biased, the author is my mate but I think the balance is good in his job, I’d be embarrassed if it was a huge rant that makes him look like a rambling idiot
Not falling out DB, agree to disagree however
regards
Glad to see the club using the press to get this across. Most of it is good but I would disagree with this part
Referees ultimately won't cost Rangers the silverware this term
How can he go through all those decisions that cost us points and lost us a cup final but say it won't cost us silverware?
This is on Gerrard I’m afraid, he underestimated how bitter this country is. If you don’t fight your players corner over every absurd decision you will be trampled all over and risk losing respect in the dressing room. Morelos already has a ‘why should I bother’ look about him. No wonder - he scores, it’s disallowed, he gets clattered - no punishment, he as much as raises a finger - he’s booked.
It was important not to imply all our troubles have been the fault of refs and I do appreciate your point but to me it seems odd to say massive wrong decisions wouldn't cost us silverware.I think that was just clever journalism personally Slim.
He’s made that statement but given enough hard evidence to point to the contrary, to then pull himself out of accusations from elsewhere.
To me, he knows what he’s saying & why he’s saying it.
I think that was just clever journalism personally Slim.
He’s made that statement but given enough hard evidence to point to the contrary, to then pull himself out of accusations from elsewhere.
To me, he knows what he’s saying & why he’s saying it.