captcaveman
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If the club wont say anything then its up to the fans mate.If you honestly think that would change things fine.
If the club wont say anything then its up to the fans mate.If you honestly think that would change things fine.
You need the other clubs mate as we alone, will just be accused of being bad losers. Problem is though, if other clubs were to dive in and back us up, it wouldn't be long till they were accused of anti Irish/catholic racism. Soon as that happens the conversation ends. That's the way it is now and they have exploited it to the full.Celtc players repeatedly punching the ball in their own penalty box with no sanction, Celtc players feigning injury to ensure opponents legitimate goals or penalty claims are dismissed. It is embarrassing for Scottish football what is happening before our eyes. Only Rangers, as Scotland's biggest club, can address the issue of compromised refs which is destroying any competition in Scottish football. Before we play Celtc, it is imperative that we publicly demand an impartial referee, bring up the stream of disallowed goals against Celtc over the last few seasons, and ask why we haven't received a penalty kick at Parkhead in 14 years. This cheating cannot continue.
You need the other clubs mate as we alone, will just be accused of being bad losers. Problem is though, if other clubs were to dive in and back us up, it wouldn't be long till they were accused of anti Irish/catholic racism. Soon as that happens the conversation ends. That's the way it is now and they have exploited it to the full.
Did we call out Collum? I thought we just asked for clarification of decisions made during the game ?Screwed up big time when the club called out Collum.
It focused on one guy when it should have been more - and arguably even worse culprits. It's the whole set up and the meddling of Celtic that should have been laid bare.
Yes, the club requested that he should not be involved in any of our matches in early January this year.Did we call out Collum? I thought we just asked for clarification of decisions made during the game ?
I thought that it was Heart "n" hand that said it and not the club?Yes, the club requested that he should not be involved in any of our matches in early January this year.
(If that is not the case, i am happy to be corrected).
I always thought that a year or two after he left us Steven Gerard would come out and say something strongly. He saw it. He realized it. And he still has (I think) a good enough reputation that people would listen.I long for the day when someone at Rangers Says fvck it and really let's rip at the Bastards
If Aberdeen don’t speak up after that then we have no chance what so ever.Celtc players repeatedly punching the ball in their own penalty box with no sanction, Celtc players feigning injury to ensure opponents legitimate goals or penalty claims are dismissed. It is embarrassing for Scottish football what is happening before our eyes. Only Rangers, as Scotland's biggest club, can address the issue of compromised refs which is destroying any competition in Scottish football. Before we play Celtc, it is imperative that we publicly demand an impartial referee, bring up the stream of disallowed goals against Celtc over the last few seasons, and ask why we haven't received a penalty kick at Parkhead in 14 years. This cheating cannot continue.
That's fair enough.We need to pile pressure on refs before we play that mob again, mate.
I totally agree with you mate but we all just know they’ll be rolling out Clancy and Collum for these two games. They know what’s at stakeCeltc players repeatedly punching the ball in their own penalty box with no sanction, Celtc players feigning injury to ensure opponents legitimate goals or penalty claims are dismissed. It is embarrassing for Scottish football what is happening before our eyes. Only Rangers, as Scotland's biggest club, can address the issue of compromised refs which is destroying any competition in Scottish football. Before we play Celtc, it is imperative that we publicly demand an impartial referee, bring up the stream of disallowed goals against Celtc over the last few seasons, and ask why we haven't received a penalty kick at Parkhead in 14 years. This cheating cannot continue.
They got told to sit down because they demanded something that is against the rules. They asked for Collumn not to be involved in our games, the rules state you can't make they demands.Haha , our board will be told to be quiet and sit back down , like they were at the collum incident.
So expect nothing from our board , which is sad as everyone can see what’s going on.
I totally agree with you mate but we all just know they’ll be rolling out Clancy and Collum for these two games. They know what’s at stake
They only wanted us put down to the Championship so they'd only lose one season of no games against us.The current PLC board at CFC needs to removed before Scottish football can heal.
They are the ones who ensured we got triple relegated to the depths of Scottish football so they could hoover up the CL cash and consolidate their wealth.
Now we are in a situation where their influence is so great that, even when they look like losing, their refereeing fraternity will pull out the stops to ensure their heroes remain on top
Why should Rangers speak on behalf of the diddies in the league?They laughed in our faces when they had their chance.I don't care about jot for them.
We should do it for us, who cares about the rest? I say this as, they are gaining an unfair advantage and Refs are either cheats or wary of making big decisions in their games due to the fall out and media attention and the abuse from Rodgers and Celtic and their support. This is what Beaton found out when he was subjected to three Celtic supporters making threats to him and sending him non stop sectarian abuse!Why should Rangers speak on behalf of the diddies in the league?They laughed in our faces when they had their chance.I don't care about jot for them.
Hibs are the only club to have done something formally about the situation and held meetings and talks with the SFA, nobody else. I doubt even the bheasts can turn their concerns into anti Irish pish.You need the other clubs mate as we alone, will just be accused of being bad losers. Problem is though, if other clubs were to dive in and back us up, it wouldn't be long till they were accused of anti Irish/catholic racism. Soon as that happens the conversation ends. That's the way it is now and they have exploited it to the full.
I know what your saying. I was talking to a couple of Aberdeen fans a few weeks back and they are adamant that us and them get the breaks.Hibs are the only club to have done something formally about the situation and held meetings and talks with the SFA, nobody else. I doubt even the bheasts can turn their concerns into anti Irish pish.
Problem being, and I include Rangers in this, is that every club has 100% self interest in the matter, they think they are the one's being hard done by. For all the moaning and grumbling on here you can bet your bottom dollar it's replicated somewhere out in the peadospeare by bheast fans who will come up with conspiracy pish against their team too. Hearts, Hibs, mutton molesters all the same too.
Yeah agree with all of that mate.I know what your saying. I was talking to a couple of Aberdeen fans a few weeks back and they are adamant that us and them get the breaks.
What I will say, is when salmond and yousef were out for votes by visiting the Govan Arms, that was where politics came into play, involving the use of anti Irish racism. This suits celtic down to the ground and as we all know, one mention of racism and everyone, especially in politics immediately backs off.
Rangers have probably the least influence of all the clubs. Not one club will ever back us when it comes to the crunch. Impossible to do it on our own we need the other 10 clubs to back us!
You may well be right.
However, we should be highlighting the officiating every week, and it is now becoming every week.
We should be fighting our battle(s) and sod the rest. Then the rest might sit up and take notice.
I'm not asking Rangers to take up the cudgel on behalf of the rest of the clubs, mate, although it would help if they did start complaining about being repeatedly done over by horrific refereeing against Celtc.
I just want Rangers to mention at press conferences leading up to this game at the piggery that we have concerns about how it will be reffed, especially with our goals being disallowed in this fixture, and us not being awarded a penalty at the piggery in 14 years. Put the ref under pressure for a change, as they always do.
Yip, we need other clubs who are also being shafted to pipe up !The only way to make any real change in the game is to get the backing of the majority of other member clubs.
Maybe we should do a charm offensive for the next season and tell Dundee Utd to let bygones be bygones, sure the fans would love that.
Unfortunately the brain washed / dead supporters of other teams lump us in with them whilst also giving it the sevco shite.I want to see Rangers call it as we see it. If Phil is sanctioned by the SFA or SPFL, then so be it, but at least it becomes a major talking point. Scottish football has a profound problem with compromised refs where Celtc are concerned. The current situation cannot continue. That much is clear.
The other clubs were only too happy to get us demoted to give them the chance to win something.Rangers have probably the least influence of all the clubs. Not one club will ever back us when it comes to the crunch. Impossible to do it on our own we need the other 10 clubs to back us!
I'm in total agreement bud.
But there needs to be a sea change at the top of the house in this thinking, and of course the will to do this.
Even if we take getting rid of the spivs as a starting point, the evidence that is out there is overwhelming.
As I've said umpteen times to the point of boring. We should be calling these rats out every time.
As you know, you are preaching to the converted.
When?When we did write to them - we were mocked from every media outlet in Scotland, making us out to be mad conspiracy theorists.
They then write to the same SFA - media silence.
If Clement had called Clancy a cheat at the same time Rodgers did with Beaton, you can guarantee he would have been made to miss the OF & would be asked about it in every press conference since. Not to mention if he called any interviewer a "good girl".
That lot get away with murder here, intimidating refs, refusing to offer us an allocation when they rejected ours.
Only funny thing about it is they actually believe there is an agenda against them.
A good few teams won trophies?The other clubs were only too happy to get us demoted to give them the chance to win something.
Wonder how that wee plan worked out?
We did get to hear the audio but it wasn't allowed to made publicI would say it is the opposite OP. Rangers are the last ones to be taken notice of. We complained about the disgusting referring in the last game at theirs and we were told to shut up, and we wouldn’t get to hear the VAR. Then look at Aberdeen this week, they get a full premier with popcorn over their VAR query. Every other club in the country seems to get a call on the Monday morning after a controversial decision to apologise from the head of refs, we get hee haw, but “aye, but yous done this 3 years ago, so you cannae complain.”
We are playing against a loaded dice!
The last game was an absolute travesty and I expect this to be worse.Every trick in the book will be employed by that horrible, cheating outfit when we play them at the piggery, mate, and the ref will go along with it all.
Finally, some sense!We arent capable of doing anything on our own. Change can only happen through collaboration. The hope is Bisgrove is more politically capable behind the scenes than his predecessors. We need to be making moves and building alliances with Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts etc. Regardless of how 'un-staunch' it may be.
Its the only way.
I would agree with that. EVERY supporter that uses social media must start constantly posting the gifs of their dubious decisions and questioning why Refs are terrified of them and we also should do the same with the decisions we dont get and question why Refs have made a different decison for us or why we havent got a penalty etc. Question everything!
Target sponsors and those who put money into the game would be the best way but imho they don't care enough about their product(FA not the sponsors) and havn't for many many years.I would agree with that. EVERY supporter that uses social media must start constantly posting the gifs of their dubious decisions and questioning why Refs are terrified of them and we also should do the same with the decisions we dont get and question why Refs have made a different decison for us or why we havent got a penalty etc. Question everything!