Raptors
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Didn’t know he designed Liverpool’s, I knew he designed Highbury though.
I only found out when I did the tour of Anfield - the site/plans are framed and on view.
Didn’t know he designed Liverpool’s, I knew he designed Highbury though.
I wasn't at that one mate. Went to a later testimonial game down at Goodison though - in the late 70s or early 80s maybe - and it has the honour of being the only ground I've visited where me and my cousins got chased through the streets and, eventually, set upon. Hated scousers - of either persuasion - ever since.
EDIT: It was May 1974. Everton won 2-1. There were streakers on the pitch (male unfortunately) and all sorts going on.
Everton v Rangers 2nd May 1974
Anyone remember this match.? Going by this report a mini riot began after a young Rangers fan streaked onto the park wearing nothing but a Rangers scarf, when he ran back into the terracing the cops were heavy handed as they charged into the crowd to arrest him. Seems the Bears didn't take...www.followfollow.com
Gerrard will be delighted to read some of the comments in here, most not all depise scousers yet bet you two barstewards kissed his scouse a$$ winning 55, take down all the gerrard flags and thanks gaffa if your hatred of scousers is so deepAnyone but Celtic
Anyone but Liverpool.
As a club we've never had a particularly strong relationship with either Liverpool or Everton although if pushed I would say that in the early 1960s probably more of a relationship with Everton due to the British Championship games v them. In the late 1960s many of our fans were favourable towards Liverpool although we had many fans who favoured Man City more than any other English club, probably because of the strong Freemasonry traditions that Man City had back thenI'm a Liverpool fan and season ticket holder for 33 years, I also love Rangers! My dad used to go up to Glasgow in the 70s to watch the bears if Liverpool had a poor away game staying in Maryhill with friends and fellow bears and they would come down to anfield. Do Liverpool and Rangers have a special connection more so now with Gerrard at the wheel? My old account on here I remember a thread a few years back about LFC/Rangers connection and it had alot of negativety about Liverpool.
Go find a scouser who will wave a Union JackEverton being a Catholic club, who in the 50s and 60s flew the tricolour over goodish and who still to this day sing about throwing Liverpool and Rangers in the Mersey. Listen for yourself on YouTube Royal Blue Mersey
Gerrard will be delighted to read some of the comments in here, most not all depise scousers yet bet you two barstewards kissed his scouse a$$ winning 55, take down all the gerrard flags and thanks gaffa if your hatred of scousers is so deep
Think you’ll find a lot more EvertonSouness, Walters, Adam, Gerrard, McAllister.
That's the only connections I can think of.
We have just as much connection with Everton;
Smith, Durrant, Ferguson, Steven, Stevens, Rideout, Gazza
Regarding OO members in the City of Liverpool there are many Everton fans who are OO members just as there are Liverpool fans, support of either club isn't an issue where OO membership is concerned.For me goes back to when a kid in 60s then 70s euro nights on black and white telly. Always seemed to be having fight backs plenty goals noisy crowds exciting players. Don't know of club connection but I heard that the local OO members were more likely to be Liverpool fans?
Liverpudlian members of the OO down here will wave the Union flag at every opportunity. They don't parade to Southport every 12th July without reason.Go find a scouser who will wave a Union Jack
That’s the spirit ,keep your options open , more chance of a winner every week.I quite like a few different English clubs. And Liverpool are on the list.
I'm a Liverpool fan and season ticket holder for 33 years, I also love Rangers! My dad used to go up to Glasgow in the 70s to watch the bears if Liverpool had a poor away game staying in Maryhill with friends and fellow bears and they would come down to anfield. Do Liverpool and Rangers have a special connection more so now with Gerrard at the wheel? My old account on here I remember a thread a few years back about LFC/Rangers connection and it had alot of negativety about Liverpool.
I’ve yet to meet a scouser who class themselves as English never mind British.Liverpudlian members of the OO down here will wave the Union flag at every opportunity. They don't parade to Southport every 12th July without reason.
This tooGlasgow's the same kind of town as Liverpool, and the love for their club is like ours.
So why then do the OO membership in Liverpool march under Union flags and as Unionists every 12th of July to Southport. Away and don't talk utter shiteI’ve yet to meet a scouser who class themselves as English never mind British.
Thanks a lot of info on forum now.Yeah mate
Thanks I didn't think there was a strong affiliation and if any it was in the past before the rise with Shankly.Original research supports the suggestion of ‘mixed’ support for the Merseyside clubs, by the membership of the Orange Institution. Of a surveyed 215 members 27.2 per cent stated that they were Evertonians, while 42.1 per cent stated they were Liverpudlians. 21.7 per cent of the selections were made for Rangers (however, many ticked two boxes, coupling their support for a Merseyside team with the Glasgow club). A further 9 per cent stated not interested in football. You can find anything about the paper about the "rise and fall of Liverpool sectarianism" https://livrepository.liverpool.ac.uk/2010280/3/RobertsKei_April2015_2010280.pdf#:~:text=Sectarianism in Liverpool: scale and origins Over a,into Liverpool between 1845 and 1852. Nevertheless
Not just that. They have always struck me as having a very similar mentality to those in The East End.Why? Because they went after the police and government over Hillsborough?
The first time i went to Anfield and i knew that there was sectarian tensions in the city but it opened my eyes this was 1971. We walked from the city onto the Scotland Rd and it was full of pro RC IRA and Everton stuff on the walls re football stuff it was EFC +CFC. Then we got onto Everton Valley and up Netherfield Rd and it was 100% LFC + RFC pro Ulster stuff etc Although both clubs are not really either Prod or RC But the graffiti would say something else that was 1971 things have changed thoughThanks a lot of info on forum now.
Thanks I didn't think there was a strong affiliation and if any it was in the past before the rise with Shankly.
The Irish Chelsea fans on twitter are some laugh btw. Shitting on our club constantly and spamming the Tri colour all over the place. You can tell they've never been to the bridge before.
Yeah , I wouldn't recognize any irish republican as a chelsea fan to be honest lol
David FaircloughWhen i was a lad. i loved Liverpool in Europe with Keegan and Toshack and the ginger super sub
Being Irish doesn't make them a republican , plenty of sound people from ROI that aren't like thatWell there’s a tricolour behind the goal to the left hanging at every home game.
Being Irish doesn't make them a republican , plenty of sound people from ROI that aren't like that
Liverpool are a proper football club with great fans. Anytime I’ve been to Anfield and mixed with Liverpool fans in the pubs I’ve always felt welcome when I chat to them. Some prefer Rangers , some Celtic. It doesn’t bother me because they are Liverpool fans first and foremost and probably deep down they couldn’t care less about Scottish football. Liverpool have always been my English club.I'm a Liverpool fan and season ticket holder for 33 years, I also love Rangers! My dad used to go up to Glasgow in the 70s to watch the bears if Liverpool had a poor away game staying in Maryhill with friends and fellow bears and they would come down to anfield. Do Liverpool and Rangers have a special connection more so now with Gerrard at the wheel? My old account on here I remember a thread a few years back about LFC/Rangers connection and it had alot of negativety about Liverpool.
Exactly. That’s my understanding. Lived in Liverpool for a few years late 90s and early 00s. Great city and people. Loved it.Everton being a Catholic club, who in the 50s and 60s flew the tricolour over goodish and who still to this day sing about throwing Liverpool and Rangers in the Mersey. Listen for yourself on YouTube Royal Blue Mersey song
Danny Wilson, kyriakosSouness, Walters, Adam, Gerrard, McAllister.
That's the only connections I can think of.
We have just as much connection with Everton;
Smith, Durrant, Ferguson, Steven, Stevens, Rideout, Gazza
People will say no, ... people will say yes.I'm a Liverpool fan and season ticket holder for 33 years, I also love Rangers! My dad used to go up to Glasgow in the 70s to watch the bears if Liverpool had a poor away game staying in Maryhill with friends and fellow bears and they would come down to anfield. Do Liverpool and Rangers have a special connection more so now with Gerrard at the wheel? My old account on here I remember a thread a few years back about LFC/Rangers connection and it had alot of negativety about Liverpool.
and you beat me to it about Billy Stevenson saw him a few times showing my age, cheers.Billy (sometimes called Willie) Stevenson hasn't been mentioned yet*. He was Rangers' left-half but left for Liverpool the season after Jim Baxter signed. He figured strongly in Liverpool's league title triumphs in 1964 and 1966, as well as Liverpool's first FA Cup victory in 1965.
Bill Shankly played for Partick Thistle during the war (he was based in Bishopbriggs, just north of the city and Firhill was closest) but he really wanted to play for Rangers.
In September 1923 Rangers played Liverpool at Ibrox in the Arthur Dixon testimonial match, the result being 1-1. In April that season, Rangers defeated Liverpool 2-0 at Anfield in a match titled 'the British Championship'. (In the 30s Rangers defeated Arsenal over two legs in another match labelled 'the British Championship').
In December 1981 Rangers invited Liverpool as guests to commemorate the completion of the Ibrox redevelopment with a powerful Liverpool side winning 2-0.
In terms of Rangers' relationships with English clubs, I believe we have played Newcastle Utd. most often and have had more players from Everton than any other English club. However, our strongest relationship as a club is with Arsenal, due to the friendship between Bill Struth and Herbert Chapman. Just to complicate matters, by the 80s a Rangers-Chelsea link among supporters had developed.
That said, back in the 70s I'd say most Rangers fans leaned towards Liverpool as their favourite English team (some preferred City), while Celtic fans appeared to link with Man. Utd. I guess that's changed quite a bit over the years, with Celtic craving friendship with just about everyone.
Due to the sectarian divide in Glasgow and Liverpool, some Rangers fans automatically think this transfers over to the Liverpool-Everton rivalry, although most of us are aware that it doesn't. Someone should perhaps point this out to Paul McCartney!
* The post above beat me to it!
Says the man with Souness86 as his nome du plume…you don’t do irony do you?
Well I've met thousands who are very proud to be both .I’ve yet to meet a scouser who class themselves as English never mind British.
Yes
Ah so because he played with both clubs we have a "special connection"?Says the man with Souness86 as his nome du plume…you don’t do irony do you?
Danny Wilson, kyriakos
Every Liverpool fan I have met say they dislike them because they not only stole "their" song but claim they sung it first.A few Celtic supporting mates always mention this when the discussion come up, not sure if there’s anything to it.
Find it strange, and ironic - considering they stole Liverpool’s great football anthem.