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Makes the most sense given his injury.
Yeah, he looked promising pre injury.
If we can get him on another year's loan with an option to buy then it's a win-win.
Makes the most sense given his injury.
I don't think it would. I hope we try and get Sima on another season loan too.He looked bright enough in the few games he played but it was hardly enough to judge whether he'd be a good signing.
Also I'd imagine if we sign Cortes, it will end any minute chance of Sima, who I would much prefer.
Another six months loan with an option to buy would be sensible.
Rangers and Lens are working on extending the loan of Colombian Óscar Cortés, who has already completed two months of recovery after his surgery.The current loan is about to expire, but the new agreement is on the right track.
Is this a reliable source
Rangers and Lens are working on extending the loan of Colombian Óscar Cortés, who has already completed two months of recovery after his surgery.The current loan is about to expire, but the new agreement is on the right track.
152k followers suggests some credibility at least.Is this a reliable source
Is this a reliable source
Can’t see Brighton letting Sima go out on loan againI don't think it would. I hope we try and get Sima on another season loan too.
He looked bright enough in the few games he played but it was hardly enough to judge whether he'd be a good signing.
Also I'd imagine if we sign Cortes, it will end any minute chance of Sima, who I would much prefer.
Maybe so but he's injured just now so selling him might not be a option.Can’t see Brighton letting Sima go out on loan again
We need to get away from playing players out of their preferred position. Sign Cortes on loan and go find a proper right winger imo.Sima plays left and Cortes on the right, sorted.
I hope we can get both back next season.
Aye, thank god you said that mate no way would they be thinking about that!Need to be careful.
Bad hamstring injuries tend to have recurring issues, and we can’t keep signing players like that.
It was more about cost to be honest. I'd love to see both here but if I had to pick, it's Sima all day.Sima plays left and Cortes on the right, sorted.
I hope we can get both back next season.
Not if Cortes is a loan extension. Puts any potential transfer fee into the following summer’s budget.It was more about cost to be honest. I'd love to see both here but if I had to pick, it's Sima all day.
Matondo needs to go, I don’t think anyone will buy him I can see him going out on loanIf we are going to sign Sima then it would be a no from me as we already have Mantondo. Only way I can see us getting him would be to sell Matondo.
I would be delighted if we can keep him, he showed promise and I was gutted he got injured.
The fact he is still in Scotland and was at the awards last week would suggest a deal will be made.
Tying him and Sima down would be our flanks sorted for next season.
Not every player Brighton sign goes for millions mateCan't see us singing Sima. Brighton signed him for £7 million and with their player trading model there's no chance they will sell him at a loss. We would have to at least pay what they paid which I would rather we didn't. He'll probably be loaned back out to Germany or Spain
The club that signed Roofe, Jack and Helander?Aye, thank god you said that mate no way would they be thinking about that!
Not every player Brighton sign goes for millions mate
Can't see us singing Sima. Brighton signed him for £7 million and with their player trading model there's no chance they will sell him at a loss. We would have to at least pay what they paid which I would rather we didn't. He'll probably be loaned back out to Germany or Spain
It was more about cost to be honest. I'd love to see both here but if I had to pick, it's Sima all day.
Agreed on Sima. Dessers causes himself problems as much as the opposition defence tbh.Dessers, already with 20 goals and Sima pre injury, have caused opposition defences a good amount of problems this season, tbf.
What has Sima done to achieve a profit on the £7m Bighton paid for him?
Isn't he out of contract next season?
Sima IMO would be available for a deal around £4m or £5m, I think if both parties sit down there will be a dealt be had.
That's why we're trying to get him on loan again. Take it you haven't read any of the posts above yours, no?Why,what has he done to merit a transfer. Not played enough to convince us he's good enough. But can't be worse than what we've got
As we would be for a player from Africa (See Sima & Dessers, potentially Diamonde) or Arfield at the time for Canada. As much as I loathe to use them as a barometer, it doesn't seem to cause the eastenders any issues when their Japanese or Korean players attend internationals. I think you subconsciously answered your own concern, Morelos was the problem, not the fixtures.The downside with signing players from this region , as we saw with Morelos, is that we are at these countries' mercy if they want to call up and haul our players all over the world for tinpot friendlies.
As we would be for a player from Africa (See Sima & Dessers, potentially Diamonde) or Arfield at the time for Canada. As much as I loathe to use them as a barometer, it doesn't seem to cause the eastenders any issues when their Japanese or Korean players attend internationals. I think you subconsciously answered your own concern, Morelos was the problem, not the fixtures.
I'd much rather have the good headache of our players being considered for caps, than them sitting scratching their arse here and being overlooked because they aren't good enough.
Fully agreed there, however in Morelos' case it was likely that the national team manager wasn't affected by the same blind spot that Gerrard seemed to be. He seen him as a squad option off the bench, if our players are well in contention to start games then I don't have an issue with it. Long term it can only increase their profile and market value.I agree wholeheartedly about the African angle, I was just using Alfie as an example because of the South American nature of the thread.
The thing is with Morelos, there were a couple of times he'd be flown halfway across the globe just to warm the bench. Situations like this are no good to us.
Fully agreed there, however in Morelos' case it was likely that the national team manager wasn't affected by the same blind spot that Gerrard seemed to be. He seen him as a squad option off the bench, if our players are well in contention to start games then I don't have an issue with it. Long term it can only increase their profile and market value.
Nah, from a selfish point of view I totally agree. There are obvious benefits to our players playing regular international football, as you say though the worry is missing important fixtures, or even worse - coming back crocked.You make a fair point.
Maybe it's just me and my loathing of international football. But the thought of losing a player or two mid season for this African guff really does rip my knit 1 and purl 2. And to think we lost a player because of this?
As I said, maybe it's just me.
Missed a crucial old firm game to sit in the stand. I remember thinking at the time it was a bit of an insult to player and club. But I doubt Morelos cared, he got to put up a few selfies with some of the Colombia stars on Instagram.I agree wholeheartedly about the African angle, I was just using Alfie as an example because of the South American nature of the thread.
The thing is with Morelos, there were a couple of times he'd be flown halfway across the globe just to warm the bench. Situations like this are no good to us.
Brighton have a club option to extend his deal by a year until 2026.
We're not getting Sima for £5m.
Why not? How do you know for sure?
Cortes most certainly would not be playing out of position on the right, he played there plenty times pre arriving at Ibrox.We need to get away from playing players out of their preferred position. Sign Cortes on loan and go find a proper right winger imo.
Would you sell Sima for £5m if he was our player with two years left on his deal ?
So why would Brighton ?
As it stands he has one year left on his deal and Brighton might not even take that option for another year.
Are Brighton going to keep loaning him out until he is out of contract?
If we make a serious bid for Sima come summer then Im sure Brighton will weigh it up.
And if Sima was our player with a year left and we got offered £5m I would definitely sell. Did you learn nothing from the Kent and Morelos situation?
I wholeheartedly agree in the case of Sima, we've seen enough to know he's pretty much a guaranteed hit.If we want to win the league again we need to invest in these kind of players, simple as that.
Sima and Cortes versus Matondo and Wright, its a no brainer and we have to try all avenues to make it happen.
We have a different manager and DoF, the signings of Jack, Roofe and Helander are totally irrelevant now.The club that signed Roofe, Jack and Helander?
They probably didn’t, so cheers for that.
You're absolutely right mate. Brighton might not trigger the option.
I mean, why would they want to do something as stupid as increasing the players transfer value when they can not bother and allow his value to plummet instead.
I wholeheartedly agree in the case of Sima, we've seen enough to know he's pretty much a guaranteed hit.
Cortes has played about 250 minutes of football for us. He looked bright enough but it's far to early to be certain. Plenty have had bright starts only to fall away.
And are we really going to sign 2 players that have missed months of the season with injuries?
This sounds a more balanced point yes it would cost them something to extend his contract and it could be a sizeable hike in salary too ??As it stands he has one year left on his deal and Brighton might not even take that option for another year.
Are Brighton going to keep loaning him out until he is out of contract?
If we make a serious bid for Sima come summer then Im sure Brighton will weigh it up.
And if Sima was our player with a year left and we got offered £5m I would definitely sell. Did you learn nothing from the Kent and Morelos situation?
The same website has a section showing the positions he has played, with no games on the right.
Agreed on Sima. Dessers causes himself problems as much as the opposition defence tbh.
Dessers is a superior player to Shankland, but neither are good enough long term for me.Well, looking at him and Shankland in the SC Semi last week, one looked slow and cumbersome, winning nothing in the air or on the ground against our central defenders, while the other showed good movement, was quick and athletic and scored the 2 goals that put his team in the SC Final.
Sima’s contract with Brighton is up next year so I’d imagine they’ll be wanting to sell this summer.I don't think it would. I hope we try and get Sima on another season loan too.