Most are probably just happy to keep on the right side of Celtic and the media, i am not sure i would agree with the view having no refs at the finals makes our refs hopeless.Not one Scottish Referee has be selected for the 2024 Euro Champoinship games.
I wonder why that should be, our refereeing standards are so high.
They aren’t, they really really aren’tNot one Scottish Referee has be selected for the 2024 Euro Champoinship games.
I wonder why that should be, our refereeing standards are so high.
Correct, Collum did 2 games there then the European super cup final just after itI believe there hasn't been any Scottish officials at any major tournament since the 2016 Euros
They don’t care so long as the millions keep flowing into Celtic’s account.Embarrassing for the SFA.
The standards are in the gutter and they've only themselves to blame.
Imo, it does, sadly, reflect the poor overall standard of refs in Scotland today. It wasn’t so long ago we had a Scots ref as the 4th official in a FIFA World Cup Final 2002 - Hugh Dallas. Yet the shinners managed to get him booted out as he officiated at Parkheid when we won the League 1999.Not one Scottish Referee has be selected for the 2024 Euro Champoinship games.
I wonder why that should be, our refereeing standards are so high.
You've been defending Robertson to the hilt in the other thread. Even going as far to say that it was a 'clear foul' on Johnston. But you think VAR has made the situation worse. A really mental take.The standard of refs is probably the worst I can ever remember, it's atrocious and VAR has actually made the situation worse.
They are bad but they’re never AS bad when Celtic are involved. Make you wonder why that is.The standard of refs is probably the worst I can ever remember, it's atrocious and VAR has actually made the situation worse.
Yes because one incident where he called it correctly really gives you a broader idea of how they all perform?You've been defending Robertson to the hilt in the other thread. Even going as far to say that it was a 'clear foul' on Johnston. But you think VAR has made the situation worse. A really mental take.
Scottish Refs are in the main pish there are 2 that I would consider cheats and Robertson is one Clancy being the other.
No Scottish Refs again for international competition should have the SFA wanting to improve it. But they don't give a toss.
I really can't wait until these appalling referees start giving us appalling decisions in old firm games. We must be due at least one!Yes because one incident where he called it correctly really gives you a broader idea of how they all perform?
VAR literally has made it worse, they can't call some incidents correctly after multiple viewing.
They are just appalling referees in the main, none of them being selected for major tournaments is proof of this.
This is an achievement in itself.The standard of refs is probably the worst I can ever remember, it's atrocious and VAR has actually made the situation worse.
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.They aren’t, they really really aren’t
They’re just not decimated by cheats like you’d have believe if you were on here, Kerrydale, Jambos Kickback, AFC chat etc etc
We laugh at them for that exact statementI really can't wait until these appalling referees start giving us appalling decisions in old firm games. We must be due at least one!
A country wearing Green would win it if they were thereNot one Scottish Referee has be selected for the 2024 Euro Champoinship games.
I wonder why that should be, our refereeing standards are so high.
VAR hasn't made it worse it's the same people interpreting the games. They are Teflon and there is no comeback on them.The standard of refs is probably the worst I can ever remember, it's atrocious and VAR has actually made the situation worse.
I would absolutely settle for fair and consistent refereeing.We laugh at them for that exact statement
Surely we want the right decision… not the “right for us” one
The refs are terrified to give us anything you see the look of fear on their faces if they have to go to varI would absolutely settle for fair and consistent refereeing.
If these referees are as bad as you say, then surely logic would dictate that we'd get a few dodgy decisions in these games? Any recent examples?
It has made it worse, linesmen and refs aren't giving some decisions on the basis they know VAR can bail them out.VAR hasn't made it worse it's the same people interpreting the games. They are Teflon and there is no comeback on them.
Time for referees to explain their decisions and for the audio to be 'live' as it is in rugby.
In addition, the tramps on X are blaming us - did none of them watch Robertson on Saturday?
we scored a goal in a recent old firm game to make it 2-2 which was as a result of one of the clearest fouls you’ll see in the middle of the park to be fair. Took VAR to correct thatI would absolutely settle for fair and consistent refereeing.
If these referees are as bad as you say, then surely logic would dictate that we'd get a few dodgy decisions in these games? Any recent examples?
How do you know this ?we scored a goal in a recent old firm game to make it 2-2 which was as a result of one of the clearest fouls you’ll see in the middle of the park to be fair. Took VAR to correct that
Beaton then got himself into a “boy who cried wolf” mindset with Silva, and VAR corrected that for a penalty too
or do they not count?
Your examples are a goal that was chopped off and an objectively clear penalty kick?we scored a goal in a recent old firm game to make it 2-2 which was as a result of one of the clearest fouls you’ll see in the middle of the park to be fair. Took VAR to correct that
Beaton then got himself into a “boy who cried wolf” mindset with Silva, and VAR corrected that for a penalty too
or do they not count?
Yeah it is quite odd loads of posters do it right enough.You've been defending Robertson to the hilt in the other thread. Even going as far to say that it was a 'clear foul' on Johnston. But you think VAR has made the situation worse. A really mental take.
Scottish Refs are in the main pish there are 2 that I would consider cheats and Robertson is one Clancy being the other.
No Scottish Refs again for international competition should have the SFA wanting to improve it. But they don't give a toss.
It’s reasoned speculation… Silva had gone down hunting softly on several occasions prior… he’d taken a dive on a “tug” 60 seconds earlier…How do you know this ?
That's just wild speculation.
I actually know the answer to this one - it's because, in UEFA's eyes, they don't consider that they referee regularly enough at a high enough standard of football.I believe there hasn't been any Scottish officials at any major tournament since the 2016 Euros
So basically it's just speculation.It’s reasoned speculation… Silva had gone down hunting softly on several occasions prior… he’d taken a dive on a “tug” 60 seconds earlier…
It’s not unreasonable to suggest that Beaton was never going to buy anything from him that day.
Christ, it was a statement that flew around in here about Silva after the game because many felt it
Difficult to not perceive someone as trying to con you, when you feel all they’ve done all game is try and con you
So not much refs can do about that really, the shit refs argument has never really made any sense anyway people just panic about any mention of bias(which is the reason we spend so much time talking about them on here).I actually know the answer to this one - it's because, in UEFA's eyes, they don't consider that they referee regularly enough at a high enough standard of football.
You wanted bad decisions, it was a bad decision to not give the foul immediately… on both occasionsYour examples are a goal that was chopped off and an objectively clear penalty kick?
Interesting.
Now do the Celtic ones.
Is this the foul on Johnston?Yes because one incident where he called it correctly really gives you a broader idea of how they all perform?
VAR literally has made it worse, they can't call some incidents correctly after multiple viewing.
They are just appalling referees in the main, none of them being selected for major tournaments is proof of this.
Nobody has denied the foul.we scored a goal in a recent old firm game to make it 2-2 which was as a result of one of the clearest fouls you’ll see in the middle of the park to be fair. Took VAR to correct that
Beaton then got himself into a “boy who cried wolf” mindset with Silva, and VAR corrected that for a penalty too
or do they not count?
Well, in this instance, the procedure “favours” Celtic… because they’re the team on the end of the wrong decisionNobody has denied the foul.
It’s the procedure that’s in question.
Or, more importantly, how the procedures always seem to track back to a point that favours Celtic.
I'll repeat what I said initially. I'm looking forward to one of these 'appalling' decisions (Roofe, Morelos, Sima, several 2nd yellow card offences not being cautioned etc) going in our favour in an Old Firm game.You wanted bad decisions, it was a bad decision to not give the foul immediately… on both occasions
I hate to break it to you, but outside our games against them and what I see on here… I don’t watch them
I don’t think it’s handball against Iwata at Tynecastle, I don’t think it’s a penalty they get at the start either. I think the foul on Johnston at the weekend is soft, but not unreasonable
The handball in January was a clusterfuck of process, the Roofe goal in September is a raw deal on our behalf
McCauslands penalty at Livingston isn’t a penalty for me, neither was the one on Sima against Dundee at Ibrox. Cifuentes shouldn’t have been sent off in the same game. I don’t think the 2nd penalty they get at Easter road is a penalty, but I do think the first one is - as rare as it is that we see it given (I’ll accept that, will others get given it argument, doesn’t stop it being a foul)
If you aren’t prepared to look objectively, you can probably make each and every decision across a season fit whatever agenda you want it too
You're missing the point here.Well, in this instance, the procedure “favours” Celtic… because they’re the team on the end of the wrong decision
The process “favours” us, when it gives us penalties that have been missed
It’s not a conspiracy
That’s shows every week, they are also brainwashed from a young age however.Not unexpected, they are part time after all.
Not enough money in our game to make it worthwhile to pack in the day gig.