WinkieWATP
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Just watched it. Absolute insanity that they never planned for the police to be at Wembley until 3pm that day.
Correct2 minutes in Darren Lewis starts his racism shite, thats plenty!
It was bad enough at the semi final, I was in the stadium that day and there were people passed out steaming on the floor at 3pm before I went in.Just watched it. Absolute insanity that they never planned for the police to be at Wembley until 3pm that day.
Arseholes are the biggest worry for organisers of events and you always allow for the possibility of a few people behaving badly.I always feel a little uneasy blaming organisers for this type of thing. If people wouldn't behave like idiots then there aren't actually many problems.
Quite often people go looking for someone to pin the blame to rather than just blaming morons who can't conduct themselves properly.
I was at the final, part of the problem getting in was once past a check point you had to find a steward again to verify your ticket on the app, before proceeding to turnstyle. Couldn’t find one for a good half hour once through and by then queue’s had backed right up.
Eventually got in but was mad the crowds who got through without any tickets. Never knew the full extent of it until later that night.
Same here. We saw it all kicking off from the BBC News feed so went to the ground early after spending most of the day in West Hampsted. We were in Club Wembley for the final and thank goodness we got there early and one of the first ones to get in after the gates opened - it was that same entrance that was stormed an hour later.I was at the final, part of the problem getting in was once past a check point you had to find a steward again to verify your ticket on the app, before proceeding to turnstyle. Couldn’t find one for a good half hour once through and by then queue’s had backed right up.
Eventually got in but was mad the crowds who got through without any tickets. Never knew the full extent of it until later that night.
We ended up drinking in the Novotel at the start of Wembley Way, they were only letting guests of the hotel in to the bar, but we had room keys from another Novotel in the city and just showed them when walking in. Stayed in there until around an hour before kick off.Same here. We saw it all kicking off from the BBC News feed so went to the ground early after spending most of the day in West Hampsted. We were in Club Wembley for the final and thank goodness we got there early and one of the first ones to get in after the gates opened - it was that same entrance that was stormed an hour later.
When we were waiting to get in, one observation was that none of the stewards supervising the metal lanes and searches looked a day over 20. After getting in at that point, we had our tickets activated to get in. A lot of the stewards with the Bluetooth activation sticks obviously got called to assist at the gates. What chance did the stewards there really have to stop it kicking off?
In a strange way, I'm looking forward to watching this. I don't think we appreciated how bad things were until the report came out a few months ago on it as we were already in the stadium.
Lesson learned for me on a major final. Get in early and don't mess about. It was a shame we got scunnered with this in Seville with the blazing sun and no water available. There is only so much fans can do to safeguard against this kind of thing. The organisers (UEFA) really need ot hold up their end of the deal and look after us with the basic amenities. That's what makes me angry about both finals. As a fan, I feel let down and the negligence could have put us in real danger on both occasions. You could argue that walking down Wembley Way for the former was a danger already
The Jeff Brazier from wish is an utter melt. When he climbs on top of the bus he just sounds like an utter dickthe fud with the neck tat and the "im a fanny" hairdo, you'd never get tired of smacking that!
And the tat dick claiming he was justified because of lockdown, no dick it’s because your a self entitled cu.nt!The Jeff Brazier from wish is an utter melt. When he climbs on top of the bus he just sounds like an utter dick
The guy up the lamppost bollock naked must have been in his 50s. Bizarre behaviour to get your cock out surrounded by thousands of other men. Was blurred out but it didn’t look like he was showing off eitherI'd forgotten about the guy with the flare up his arse. Bet he stung the next morning.
The guy up the lamppost bollock naked must have been in his 50s. Bizarre behaviour to get your cock out surrounded by thousands of other men. Was blurred out but it didn’t look like he was showing off either
A lot of it reminded me of what it was like in Manchester in 08 at Piccadilly. The amatuers queued up for hours outside for a cargo etcJust finished it, quite good.
All the footage of the fans is something else.
That was a good plan to get into the Novotel out of the way. Glad you got in too. I heard they simply locked the doors because it was full. Know a few folk who were turned away with valid tickets.We ended up drinking in the Novotel at the start of Wembley Way, they were only letting guests of the hotel in to the bar, but we had room keys from another Novotel in the city and just showed them when walking in. Stayed in there until around an hour before kick off.
We were lucky to get into the stadium with tickets in the end up looking back now, as I think a load got knocked back too. Just badly organised and far too many trying to jib in.
After the game was a bit of a shambles too, walking back down to Wembley Park station was a staggered entry to the station, kept stopping everyone every 100 yards or so until area cleared and then let so many go again. Don’t know if this is usual protocol for big games at Wembley as every time I’ve been before (apart from the final) we have always went to the Hilton for a drink to let crowds die down before going to station, so have never seen it like that.That was a good plan to get into the Novotel out of the way. Glad you got in too. I heard they simply locked the doors because it was full. Know a few folk who were turned away with valid tickets.
If that was me, I would have been devastated beyond words to miss out on the game due to that. Can’t imagine what those with genuine tickets who were locked out felt like. There was uproar on the England Travel Club forum as a few of those locked out hadn’t missed a game in 30 years.
We ended up drinking in the Novotel at the start of Wembley Way, they were only letting guests of the hotel in to the bar, but we had room keys from another Novotel in the city and just showed them when walking in. Stayed in there until around an hour before kick off.
We were lucky to get into the stadium with tickets in the end up looking back now, as I think a load got knocked back too. Just badly organised and far too many trying to jib in.
It was bad enough at the semi final, I was in the stadium that day and there were people passed out steaming on the floor at 3pm before I went in.
I didn't go anywhere near the stadium on the day of the final, but my colleague had to as he was working on the event for the England squad and friends and family at the hotel next door. He said he got to Wembley Park tube at 2pm and it took him over 35 minutes to get from the stadium to the Hilton, which is a 10 minute walk at most. It was absolutely mobbed.
Yes that is the process at every game, usually works very well and the queue is cleared by about an hour after full time.After the game was a bit of a shambles too, walking back down to Wembley Park station was a staggered entry to the station, kept stopping everyone every 100 yards or so until area cleared and then let so many go again. Don’t know if this is usual protocol for big games at Wembley as every time I’ve been before (apart from the final) we have always went to the Hilton for a drink to let crowds die down before going to station, so have never seen it like that.
I think we got on one of the last trains back toward central London, we were heading back towards London Bridge, I’m certain people would have missed the last train back.
I watched it this afternoon. I knew there were issues on the night but hadn’t realised the scale of the problems. Did they actually follow through with the threats to track down and prosecute those that forced their way in?
I remember working in a pub in West London back in the 2010 World Cup. England had drawn against USA and Algeria and had to beat Slovenia to qualify out of the group stage.Just proves that a certain demographic of English fans/persons are absolute cock sockets.
Would love to see the figures for arrests all around England for that day.
I remember World Cup in 98 watching an England game in a bar in Worthing.
England won, we all celebrated, fans piled into the street, traffic stopped, over zealous fans then started fighting and the police arrived and it all kicked off.
We’d left the area when the shit started.
And not 1 foreign fan in site. Pissed up, coked up English idiots.
The whole tournament was encouraged to be an alcohol loving nightmare, I remember that comedian Rob Beckett getting the 'isnt he funny and cuddly lying comitosed wearing a bucket hat and a Italia 90 DHGate top, ignoring his wife and young family all in the the name of Engerland and the sesh'It was bad enough at the semi final, I was in the stadium that day and there were people passed out steaming on the floor at 3pm before I went in.
I didn't go anywhere near the stadium on the day of the final, but my colleague had to as he was working on the event for the England squad and friends and family at the hotel next door. He said he got to Wembley Park tube at 2pm and it took him over 35 minutes to get from the stadium to the Hilton, which is a 10 minute walk at most. It was absolutely mobbed.
Same here. We saw it all kicking off from the BBC News feed so went to the ground early after spending most of the day in West Hampsted. We were in Club Wembley for the final and thank goodness we got there early and one of the first ones to get in after the gates opened - it was that same entrance that was stormed an hour later.
When we were waiting to get in, one observation was that none of the stewards supervising the metal lanes and searches looked a day over 20. After getting in at that point, we had our tickets activated to get in. A lot of the stewards with the Bluetooth activation sticks obviously got called to assist at the gates. What chance did the stewards there really have to stop it kicking off?
In a strange way, I'm looking forward to watching this. I don't think we appreciated how bad things were until the report came out a few months ago on it as we were already in the stadium.
Lesson learned for me on a major final. Get in early and don't mess about. It was a shame we got scunnered with this in Seville with the blazing sun and no water available. There is only so much fans can do to safeguard against this kind of thing. The organisers (UEFA) really need ot hold up their end of the deal and look after us with the basic amenities. That's what makes me angry about both finals. As a fan, I feel let down and the negligence could have put us in real danger on both occasions. You could argue that walking down Wembley Way for the former was a danger already
I can't be the only one seeing the hypocrisy of this?We ended up drinking in the Novotel at the start of Wembley Way, they were only letting guests of the hotel in to the bar, but we had room keys from another Novotel in the city and just showed them when walking in. Stayed in there until around an hour before kick off.
We were lucky to get into the stadium with tickets in the end up looking back now, as I think a load got knocked back too. Just badly organised and far too many trying to jib in.
Just watched it. Can't believe the complete disregard to peoples safety for to see a final.
Throwing glass bottles and traffic cones up in the air in amongst a packed crowd is not only disgraceful but sheer stupidity.
Then seeing people crush and trample over other people to breach turnstiles and ticket search barriers, it's remarkable no one died.
They were perhaps lucky there were 23000 seats unsold on capacity due to covid. If it was full capacity it could've potentially been another Hillsborough.
Noticed that right away. Is there any topic he doesn’t turn into a racist one?2 minutes in Darren Lewis starts his racism shite, thats plenty!
He’s a race baiting prick, which is a shame because when he talks about football he can be a good listen.Noticed that right away. Is there any topic he doesn’t turn into a racist one?
Absolute throbber.
Forgot about the Champions League final in Paris. That's another one that was total chaos getting in (on UEFA's watch). Apparently there were also issues with the Champions League final in Istanbul last year too. Alot of City fans complained that they had to walk a good few miles to the ground from the city as the busses to/from the game just didn't turn up.I don't understand the crowd that stood about outside after the game started. All that build up just to stand outside the ground and miss the match. I dont understand the cheek either of breaking into a game without paying while thousands of others have forked money for a ticket. Dont imagine tickets for that game would have been cheap.
Seems like just after the pandemic football authorities forgot what was involved in holding a big final, with what happened in Paris with the champions league aswell.
Maybe if they didn’t just start wading in with their batons for %^*& all there wouldn’t have been half the trouble.I’ve always said about Manchester, if the police think is was a nightmare with us losing, just as well we never won
I don’t mean more fighting but the streets would have been mayhem until the next day, most folk just went home because of the defeat.
Wembley have built additional perimeter barriers outside the staff and media entrances on the lower level, the same areas where crowds were storming up the stairs before the Euro final.Forgot about the Champions League final in Paris. That's another one that was total chaos getting in (on UEFA's watch). Apparently there were also issues with the Champions League final in Istanbul last year too. Alot of City fans complained that they had to walk a good few miles to the ground from the city as the busses to/from the game just didn't turn up.
It will be interesting to see how the final at Wembley goes this year. I wonder if UEFA will have applied any of the learnings from the last few major finals to this one? Only time will tell...