Type of players we'll be linked with this summer?

We need a spine of three Scots players who know our tradition, not journey men, with the ability to play with minor knocks, not bail onto, I’m injured for the slightest small knock, and out for two months!
 
TonyAtTheBing said:
I think we may finally try to move away from being a hospice for failed footballers, signing guys who were in poor form hoping to turn it around has been a bewildering model.

Sign players who have a career on the up.

The aim has to be following teams across Europe who develop the best young talents, we aren't even attempting that.
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Its a great shout
 
PMB1872 said:
To the clown who laughed at this post, why is that so funny? It’s actually very fair comment.
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The manager has mentioned before about looking for Scottish players including getting more from our own B team .I would expect us to sign some Scottish based players . Not sure if we have any in the B team capable of making the step up.
 
ThreestripeS said:
Hopefully spl or scottish based players that the usual suspects turn their nose up at.

Watson Armstrong Baron Shankland L Miller for starters.
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Reckon you'd be around £12 - £15m before add ons AND wages! And not a centre back between them!
Sima is a must to make permanent!
Even if we had £22m to spend you'd be disappointed with that business
 
Coop1872 said:
I don't think I'd be going for too many African or South American players if they are going to be involved in international tournaments and miss important parts of our season.
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If we sign South Americans I don't think we'll lose them for International football, unless we find a gem like peak Alfie again
 
Sorry I dont get this " We need Scottish players" Sorry most being mentioned on here are not good enough. European teams come over here and hammer Scottish teams full of Scottish players time after time.
Answer is not more Scottish players its better quality players no matter there nationality.
 
Mcgowan from Dundee, Miller from Motherwell, Shankland to be the new captain,actually use Leon King as DM, use Bailey Rice more, get some real ability on the flanks, a couple of set piece specialists, use Lovelace and most importantly, keep Butland.
 
XabGer said:
Sorry I dont get this " We need Scottish players" Sorry most being mentioned on here are not good enough. European teams come over here and hammer Scottish teams full of Scottish players time after time.
Answer is not more Scottish players its better quality players no matter there nationality.
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The players like Barron etc who won't cost the moon are practical and understandable signings. However, taking a player from each team of the spfl is overkill.
A player from Killie, a player from Well, a player from Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen etc.

A couple are fine. 5 or 6 is nonsense.
 
Forza_Napoli said:
I know a scout at another club who was chatting to someone from our club and we're pretty much done with that market. They mentioned the difference in wages someone from the championship would want compared to someone in Scandinavian the balkans ect can be up to 10/20% a difference
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That's already poor value for players who don't then win leagues, but even more so when they hardly play. We've got five guys in our squad right now - Davies, Balogun, Dowell, Lawrence and Roofe - who were bought from English clubs and who have played a combined 4839 minutes this season (stats from Transfermarkt). Butland, Tavernier and Goldson have played 4300-4600 minutes each. Maybe Balogun isn't on huge money, but those are some expensive contracts in terms of pounds per minute of football.

Athleticism has to be a priority. No history of serious injury. Some track record of success at big (relatively speaking) clubs, even if from smaller leagues. Demonstrable ability to compete. We have to filter out guys like Silva and Lammers in our scouting - guys who have something about them but just don't show up in our strange league.
 
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Coza said:
I remain convinced that based on his Brugge team a good few years back we are going to see a bunch of random African wide forwards who are all like shit of a shovel, direct and shoot from everywhere. I’d swear that team played games at 100mph and had a team of real live wires who were ludicrously quick with or without the ball.
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Horny for the summer then
 
It needs to be an entire new era for the club.

No half baked rebuild that we usually get.

Better mentality, better football players.

If we have to sell to fund then so be it - nobody there currently is indispensable.
 
Dick Donner said:
Some experience, some youth.

Hopefully the core is replaced with leaders and experience.

Players we've been linked with before who we could maybe get.

Niklas Dorsch
Auston Trusty
Shon Weissman

No idea if those players are out with our reach or are garbage now.

Just throwing names out and hopefully get some suggestions from others.
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Good wans hopefully!
 
Dick Donner said:
Some experience, some youth.

Hopefully the core is replaced with leaders and experience.

Players we've been linked with before who we could maybe get.

Niklas Dorsch
Auston Trusty
Shon Weissman

No idea if those players are out with our reach or are garbage now.

Just throwing names out and hopefully get some suggestions from others.
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I said last summer that our number one priority should have been a replacement CB for Helander and a goal scoring Striker,

Out manager at the time signed 3 forwards who don't score a lot of goals
 
Dick Donner said:
Some experience, some youth.

Hopefully the core is replaced with leaders and experience.

Players we've been linked with before who we could maybe get.

Niklas Dorsch
Auston Trusty
Shon Weissman

No idea if those players are out with our reach or are garbage now.

Just throwing names out and hopefully get some suggestions from others.
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Not only liked with players, SMSM will have us linked with McInnes again
 
For me we need to really dominate the scottish market. try and get the best young scottish boys signed up. we are seeing they are good enough when they move away and they will know what its all about. Lennon Miller and Conner Barron. Might have missed the boat on them but we should be really pushing when a good one pops up.
 
Hopefully not English Championship journeymen or academy knock offs. Personally, I've changed my own opinion and would shop local first and try and get some of the better domestic players to start building a Scottish core. Players who wouldn't break the bank salary wise and which would free up some extra wiggle room to bring in a couple of genuinely talented first team ready players from the continent. Fed up with 'projects' and this buy-to-sell model that has yet to really work for us.
 
A couple of project players, a couple of players trying to rebuild their career and a couple recovering from a serious injury or 4.

Job done.
 
We absolutely must move away from the English market it simply does not provide value or winners as we have seen.

For me we need to seek a blend of the best Scottish talent and players from value for money markets like Scandinavia, Africa, Eastern Europe and South Americans (Colombians as referenced by the gaffer)

It does feel like it’s time to move on from the senior players at the club. Lundstram is out of contract and if there is interest in Tav from Saudi I think it would be time for him to bow out. Goldson is done and needs moved on if we can get rid. Without a change in these influential influences I am not sure how the culture ultimately changes. They are only going to regress as players on the pitch and haven’t been won enough to pass on experience to younger players.
 
cranky said:
We absolutely must move away from the English market it simply does not provide value or winners as we have seen.

For me we need to seek a blend of the best Scottish talent and players from value for money markets like Scandinavia, Africa, Eastern Europe and South Americans (Colombians as referenced by the gaffer)

It does feel like it’s time to move on from the senior players at the club. Lundstram is out of contract and if there is interest in Tav from Saudi I think it would be time for him to bow out. Goldson is done and needs moved on if we can get rid. Without a change in these influential influences I am not sure how the culture ultimately changes. They are only going to regress as players on the pitch and haven’t been won enough to pass on experience to younger players.
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For comparison, Celtic have one prominent player I can think of who signed from the English lower leagues; O'Riley. By all accounts, he was a genuine standout where he was and his signing was good scouting/timing.

Our team is full of lower league players who were/are a big hit in their own household and not much further.
 
If our youth players were at Motherwell, Aberdeen and the like they would have more playing time. Then people woild rate them along with Barron, Lennon & co.
 
Ideally, some fast, skillful, robust players who can instantly come into the team and make us better.

Realistically, it'll be a mixture of Bosmans and uncut diamonds that we believe we can improve over time.

Without major investment, recruitment won't be hugely different from recent seasons. That said, we would have to have an absolute nightmare to spend our limited funds worse than we did last summer.
 
Arkanoid said:
Reckon you'd be around £12 - £15m before add ons AND wages! And not a centre back between them!
Sima is a must to make permanent!
Even if we had £22m to spend you'd be disappointed with that business
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Wouldn’t say Sima is a must personally. His goals have been very welcome but he’s just not technically good enough in my opinion. Certainly not at the price he’d be which you’d assume with him having a few years left on his deal would be at a minimum what Brighton paid for him. We could get 2 players of a better quality at that price with good scouting. Limited budget in the summer will mean he won’t be here for these reasons.
 
DBallZ said:
For comparison, Celtic have one prominent player I can think of who signed from the English lower leagues; O'Riley. By all accounts, he was a genuine standout where he was and his signing was good scouting/timing.

Our team is full of lower league players who were/are a big hit in their own household and not much further.
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Exactly. We sought and appointed Clement as he had a winning mentality and track record of winning things. If you are going to bring in players particularly those to bring experience then you should look for that in them too. Younger players you want to see a burning desire to be the best they can be and win things

The likes of Cantwell, Goldson, Dowell, Lawrence, Matondo, Davies, Lundstram etc have neither won things nor appear to have that ruthless win at all costs mentality you need at Ibrox.

We need to find players who will kill their granny to get their hands on titles. And just as important who will hate and despise the other lot with a passion.
 
cranky said:
Exactly. We sought and appointed Clement as he had a winning mentality and track record of winning things. If you are going to bring in players particularly those to bring experience then you should look for that in them too. Younger players you want to see a burning desire to be the best they can be and win things

The likes of Cantwell, Goldson, Dowell, Lawrence, Matondo, Davies, Lundstram etc have neither won things nor appear to have that ruthless win at all costs mentality you need at Ibrox.

We need to find players who will kill their granny to get their hands on titles. And just as important who will hate and despise the other lot with a passion.
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Career footballers like career politicians. A comparatively very well paid job and they don't necessarily care about the wider impact of it on other people.
 
As much as I hate to say it as there's a few of them across the city, we have to start targeting the Asian market. Scout wisely and there are some amazing bargains to be found for cheap
 
Coza said:
I remain convinced that based on his Brugge team a good few years back we are going to see a bunch of random African wide forwards who are all like shit of a shovel, direct and shoot from everywhere. I’d swear that team played games at 100mph and had a team of real live wires who were ludicrously quick with or without the ball.
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That makes me feel better ,hope Phil implements this.
We need players with confidence in their ability to stop the rot , and rip up the current script.
 
XabGer said:
Sorry I dont get this " We need Scottish players" Sorry most being mentioned on here are not good enough. European teams come over here and hammer Scottish teams full of Scottish players time after time.
Answer is not more Scottish players its better quality players no matter there nationality.
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Half the Scotland team is playing at a far higher level and started in the SPFL.
 
Dick Donner said:
Some experience, some youth.

Hopefully the core is replaced with leaders and experience.

Players we've been linked with before who we could maybe get.

Niklas Dorsch
Auston Trusty
Shon Weissman

No idea if those players are out with our reach or are garbage now.

Just throwing names out and hopefully get some suggestions from others.
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Not sure on names etc but own player we have to get is a Steve Davis type..someone who can dictate tempo of game and actually pass forward with accuracy.
 
Coza said:
I remain convinced that based on his Brugge team a good few years back we are going to see a bunch of random African wide forwards who are all like shit of a shovel, direct and shoot from everywhere. I’d swear that team played games at 100mph and had a team of real live wires who were ludicrously quick with or without the ball.
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Sounds like utter carnage. I'm all in!
 
Players that give us some indication of how Clement actually wants a team in his own image to play. Heard the word structure used a lot lately from the boss while in the middle of a string of disjointed performances. So players that fit this so called structure would be a start. Don't really give a shit where they come from.
 
Foreign players nobody has ever heard of but will say they are brilliant because they are foreign and have a great 4:06 Youtube video and are from (example) Croatia so must be a warrior like Dado Prso.
 
We need to get the spine of the team sorted. Never mind wingers or fullbacks unless we sell them or deals for Sima and Cortes are too good to pass up.

If Goldson stays we need a pacey LCB, similar to Bassey that allows to pay further up and still have recovery pace.

We need a proper six that is press resistant and another box to box.

Most important is a striker who is lethal that can rotate with Danilo.
 
1BrianLaudrup said:
That's already poor value for players who don't then win leagues, but even more so when they hardly play. We've got five guys in our squad right now - Davies, Balogun, Dowell, Lawrence and Roofe - who were bought from English clubs and who have played a combined 4839 minutes this season (stats from Transfermarkt). Butland, Tavernier and Goldson have played 4300-4600 minutes each. Maybe Balogun isn't on huge money, but those are some expensive contracts in terms of pounds per minute of football.

Athleticism has to be a priority. No history of serious injury. Some track record of success at big (relatively speaking) clubs, even if from smaller leagues. Demonstrable ability to compete. We have to filter out guys like Silva and Lammers in our scouting - guys who have something about them but just don't show up in our strange league.
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Forgetting those two who do you feel competes at the moment
 
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