Super Cooper
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No, we dragged you in, it's your round!am I in the lounge by accident
No, we dragged you in, it's your round!am I in the lounge by accident
Is the 4K Planet Earth II and Blue Planet II available free on the iplayer mate?Planet Earth II and Blue Planet II are utterly jaw dropping
If its streaming it will be shite 4k much like 1080p streaming on iplayer and other devices is shite quality.
Remember with OLED that although it's a newer tech and undoubtedly has better blacks, etc, it can't get anywhere near the peak brightness of LCD, which for HDR content can make a difference. My TV goes as high as 1500 nits, not sure what the limit of OLED is but it's nowhere near that.
Spain in the main is like a third world country compared to the UK.I’d hope so, but looks like it’ll be online only. Still a distinct lack of UHD channels, and 4K channels are even further away due to the bandwidth requirements.
Be interested to see how it compares to say the services in The States.
Made me slightly worried when the salesman kept referring to it as a mid range tv. £2300 for a mid range..... how much are the top range tv's
Also come next May gerrard lifting the premiership trophy will look sweet in 65 inch 4k on sky
If its streaming it will be shite 4k much like 1080p streaming on iplayer and other devices is shite quality.
From what i remember BluRay is 90% compressed at 4k but still uses a bitrate of around 25-40Mbps depending on film which is more than good enough for an amaizing picture.If anyone else has netflix you can actually check this yourself... CTRL+Shift+Alt+D with the video open & check what you get for the following
a/v Being Audio/Visual
Audio 320 is "CD" Quality, 128 is pretty much the lowest you will ever listen to an mp3/podcast
Video is where you are getting ripped off (kbps) The above is an SD Stream(853x480) highest it will go is 710 (after compression your normal dvd is about 6000, 1080p should be somewhere between 20-30k and 4k is 80-130k)
The technology simply doesnt exist or is far too expensive to even happen. But 99% of people have never seen a 1080/3D/4k video at source so buy into the "hype"
EDIT 2: Turns out i was talking somewhat pish after checking download usage, but I have "good" Internet so its hard to judge based on a youtube video etc, as my peak was 62 Mb/s (1.8Gb in 1m) Youtube in general though for 4k is still 2-3x the quality of Sky but everything is compressed into the ground so i suppose it depends on what codecs etc are used to actually judge "quality"
but still uses a bitrate of around 25-40Mbps depending on film which is more than good enough for an amazing picture.
God i would like to think soThat is pretty much the end of the conversation tbh (and kind of proves both our points)
Can your average person tell the difference between e.g. Saving Private Ryan in 4k UHD at 75Mb/s or in 1080p compressed with H.265 at 8Mb/s
Everything is the same though, Smart jargon to bump people out of cash
God i would like to think so
That is pretty much the end of the conversation tbh (and kind of proves both our points)
Can your average person tell the difference between e.g. Saving Private Ryan in 4k UHD at 75Mb/s or in 1080p compressed with H.265 at 8Mb/s
Everything is the same though, Smart jargon to bump people out of cash
Feeling like a bit of a pauper! Never even thought about getting a tv capable of 4K. Don’t even have an HD sky subscription.
North America is so far behind when it comes to TV and broadcasting I would not get my hopes up.
If you were going to Japan then I would certainly see the point, a good few games will be broadcast over the air in 4K.
North America so far behind the UK? your talking nonsense. If i can watch it in HD then its also available to me in 4K, on demand/rentals/purchases are normally available also.
Internet is 300mbps down and 150mbps up so streaming 4K happens without buffer, UK has what 150mbps down at most? (guess on my part) but its not the US thats behind.
You ever been to the states or just what you have "heard"
American broadcast quality is generally very poor - a lot of the HD channels are only 720p. But you can access 4K on Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Google and TV Provider download services etc. Sports is where you see the main difference. I don't think NFL is broadcast in 4K and only a few MLB games are in 4K. However, every Premier League game, multiple European games, rugby, cricket, golf etc has been in 4K over here.
Like the UK, some areas of the US are terrible for internet connectivity. We can get 350mb downloads here and also 3mb downloads. Just depends on your location, like the US.
As to the OP, I'm hoping BBC will stream a few games in 4k HLG on iPlayer but beyond that I don't think we will see many 4K World Cup broadcasts just yet - would be different if Sky or BT held the rights.
It is not really though, the limiting factor is bandwidth, ideally you would not like to have any compression of the signal from source to receiver, but due to limitations in bandwidth you need to. Now that colour is managed by bit factors the higher the compression the less information is available when unpacking the data and reproducing the image which impacts on quality. Add in the processing capability of the TV to reproduce the image and it it all adds up to either being a good or terrible picture.
North America so far behind the UK? your talking nonsense. If i can watch it in HD then its also available to me in 4K, on demand/rentals/purchases are normally available also.
Internet is 300mbps down and 150mbps up so streaming 4K happens without buffer, UK has what 150mbps down at most? (guess on my part) but its not the US thats behind.
You ever been to the states or just what you have "heard"
Made me slightly worried when the salesman kept referring to it as a mid range tv. £2300 for a mid range..... how much are the top range tv's
Also come next May gerrard lifting the premiership trophy will look sweet in 65 inch 4k on sky
Same, was thinking of buying a 40” Smart in time for the WC thoughFeeling like a bit of a pauper! Never even thought about getting a tv capable of 4K. Don’t even have an HD sky subscription.
If you find a decent one. Post it on here. I could be tempted hahaSame, was thinking of buying a 40” Smart in time for the WC though
Is the 4K Planet Earth II and Blue Planet II available free on the iplayer mate?