The Scottish Amateur Cup 2023/2024

DerHammer88 said:
Any proof of that? I played with them once upon a time and never received a penny...maybe I was hard done by? :D
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They definitely were just before they went into the West as I, as coach of a West of Scotland team at the time, lost out to a couple players to them because they were getting more money.

Not sure if they ramped it up in recent years a bit as I don't remember them doing it when I played amateur a while back.
 
Taverneeeeer said:
Colville and Hurlford paid their players when I played but there was never any insinuation Drum did as far as I know.
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It was when Mick Kennedy etc went there in the 1st place when John Black was manager there was always rumours.

I’m just at the wind up I have heard the stories and rumours like everyone else but obviously have no proof. No Drum Utd or Colville player ever showed me a brown envelope.

Maybe some of the players just liked travelling from the Drum, Greenock etc to Motherwell and sitting on the bench cause it was a good bunch of lads haha.
 
Gazza no8 said:
It was when Mick Kennedy etc went there in the 1st place when John Black was manager there was always rumours.

I’m just at the wind up I have heard the stories and rumours like everyone else but obviously have no proof. No Drum Utd or Colville player ever showed me a brown envelope.

Maybe some of the players just liked travelling from the Drum, Greenock etc to Motherwell and sitting on the bench cause it was a good bunch of lads haha.
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I know a guy that played for them and he got money for each goal and got a fridge freezer lol
 
Ger572 said:
Is the amateur game really struggling?

When I used to follow it teams in the SAFL Premier like Campbeltown Pupils, Oban Saints, Cambria, St Pats, Greenock, Gourock, Goldenhill, Busby, RR East Kilbride & Postal Utd were all the big names. Other recognisable teams were like Lochgilphead Red Star, Duncanrig, Tarbert, Haldane, Rutherglen, Kings Park & Inverclyde.

Football at that level really seems to be on the bones of its arse for watever reason?
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In the 70s Star Hearts and Morriston YMCA were the big amateur names. Both played in the amateur cup final Hampden 1974.
 
at the game tonight
a thought cupar were fortunate not to concede a first half penalty.
2nd half cupar were the better side and won comfortably .
 
Roscoblue said:
Well done Cupar.

Final apparently Thursday May 16th
Hampden Park @ 20:00
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Thursday night. A joke. Should be next day after Scottish Cup Final.

Cupar v Garrowhill. Should be a decent game. Cupar will want to retain Cup. Garrowhill have rose to the challenges set before them.
 
Jason2101 said:
Thursday night. A joke. Should be next day after Scottish Cup Final.

Cupar v Garrowhill. Should be a decent game. Cupar will want to retain Cup. Garrowhill have rose to the challenges set before them.
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That’s isn’t going to happen any more, the women’s Scottish Cup has now made that date their own.
 
Jason2101 said:
Special day. Wonder how many teams have retained trophy two years in a row.

That’s one for our resident expert @Roscoblue

Too late for me to look at my handbook.
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Colville Park and Harestanes the only 2 this century. Cambubarron done it in the 1960s, they have some brilliant pictures of it in their changing area.

Before that I don’t know and I don’t know of anyone having won it 3 times on the bounce….
 
Roscoblue said:
Colville Park and Harestanes the only 2 this century. Cambubarron done it in the 1960s, they have some brilliant pictures of it in their changing area.

Before that I don’t know and I don’t know of anyone having won it 3 times on the bounce….
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Knew Mick Kennedy won it twice with Colville. And lost it a few times as well. Harestanes good side when they won it twice.

Cheers.
 
Jason2101 said:
Thursday night. A joke. Should be next day after Scottish Cup Final.

Cupar v Garrowhill. Should be a decent game. Cupar will want to retain Cup. Garrowhill have rose to the challenges set before them.
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When it stop being a Saturday at Hampden?
 
Craigie said:
When it stop being a Saturday at Hampden?
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It’s not been a Saturday at Hampden for as long as I can remember, certainly not since it returned to Hampden. It was traditionally the Sunday after the Scottish Cup Final until COVID and then last season the women’s final.
 
Roscoblue said:
It’s not been a Saturday at Hampden for as long as I can remember, certainly not since it returned to Hampden. It was traditionally the Sunday after the Scottish Cup Final until COVID and then last season the women’s final.
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I'm going back to the 80's and 90's to be fair.

All the Bannockburn finals I've been to were on a Saturday, usually, but not always, the week after the Scottish Cup Final (I think).

They won the Scottish in 1991 on the very same day we beat Aberdeen 2-0 to win the league title. That was a very good night in Bannockburn then Stirling!

I guess the congested International calendar with games being played late May and in to June has been a factor in the change.
 
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The Scottish Cup final I played in was the last to be on a weekend as far as I know, 2018/19 season. Was the Sunday after a Celtic v Aberdeen Scottish Cup Final.

Next season wasn’t played due to covid and the rest since have been midweek fixtures I think.

I’m glad the game is still at Hampden because the full experience is unbelievable but it’s hard on fans but more importantly the players to have it played midweek with work and travel commitments.

Understand why they no longer have the space to accomodate the fixture on a weekend but it’s disappointing.
 
Gmcg95 said:
The Scottish Cup final I played in was the last to be on a weekend as far as I know, 2018/19 season. Was the Sunday after a Celtic v Aberdeen Scottish Cup Final.

Next season wasn’t played due to covid and the rest since have been midweek fixtures I think.

I’m glad the game is still at Hampden because the full experience is unbelievable but it’s hard on fans but more importantly the players to have it played midweek with work and travel commitments.

Understand why they no longer have the space to accomodate the fixture on a weekend but it’s disappointing.
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I totally get the point re the players point of view and the experience of playing at hampden, but the sunday fixture was so much better for fans. Cupar got the final in the late 2000s and the build up for a few hours beforehand was special. Maybe im biased as im in glasgow now and was brilliant seeingthe cupar fams take over a southside pub. Last year was amazing too but so difficult for folk to travel, particularly youngsters, on a school night, and thats only a ninety minute journey, not as far as some clubs would have.
One thing i remember about that final we lost, austin macphee ( set piece coach with villa and scotland now) was cupar manager at the time, hes a local boy. Was only 2 subs , he used to take a squad of 15/16, and only name the first xi. So the bench didnt know who was a sub or not. But at hampden the teams came up on screen. One of my good friends was on the bench hoping for a chance to play at hampden then found out he wasnt one of the listed subs from the big screen
 
Gmcg95 said:
Some run for Garrowhill.

Heard that they are pretty much the same Tower Hearts team who won the cup a couple seasons ago then folded? Can anyone confirm.
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My mates team lost out to Garrowhill in a final day 'shoot out' for top spot in the league - think due to the Scottish cup run they have had one of those mental fixture pile ups to end the season and have lost a couple of league cup games recently? He played them earlier in the season and said they were ridiculously good for that level.

Might be wrong but did they move to the Greater Glasgow league after the Central/Scottish merger? If so, fair play to them for starting in the bottom tier and punching above their weight in the cup.
 
Manno said:
My mates team lost out to Garrowhill in a final day 'shoot out' for top spot in the league - think due to the Scottish cup run they have had one of those mental fixture pile ups to end the season and have lost a couple of league cup games recently? He played them earlier in the season and said they were ridiculously good for that level.

Might be wrong but did they move to the Greater Glasgow league after the Central/Scottish merger? If so, fair play to them for starting in the bottom tier and punching above their weight in the cup.
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Not the same team that was in the Fosters mate. Think only wee Paul left from the old team in the Fosters. Always loved my visits to the Old Garrowhill team. A few characters. Andy Dorrans played with them for part of a season. Moaning beep beep. First season in the Greater Glasgow.

The Final is tonight if anyone is looking to pop along to Hampden. I think Cupar Hearts will be just too strong tonight. A few Cupar fans on Follow Follow board. Cupar’s Centre Forward Ritchie I think will be the difference.
 
Gazza no8 said:
It was when Mick Kennedy etc went there in the 1st place when John Black was manager there was always rumours.

I’m just at the wind up I have heard the stories and rumours like everyone else but obviously have no proof. No Drum Utd or Colville player ever showed me a brown envelope.

Maybe some of the players just liked travelling from the Drum, Greenock etc to Motherwell and sitting on the bench cause it was a good bunch of lads haha.
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In fairness when I was at Drumchapel we had a boy coming from Greenock because we were one of the best amateur teams about. I know another boy (now at Clydebank Juniors) who travelled from Greenock to play with Campsie Black Watch. Neither were paid.

Colville is a different story.
 
DerHammer88 said:
In fairness when I was at Drumchapel we had a boy coming from Greenock because we were one of the best amateur teams about. I know another boy (now at Clydebank Juniors) who travelled from Greenock to play with Campsie Black Watch. Neither were paid.

Colville is a different story.
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Lots of boys travelled to Colville when big Gerry was Manager then Mick took over. Best team about at that time. Bannockburn Eastfield Wishaw HSFP Drum Ams and Drum Utd Harestanes Shortlees Wellhouse and St Pats were all the big teams at that time. Be it from Greenock Cumbernauld Stirling Dumbarton or Drumchapel they travelled to Motherwell as facilities and pitch at Golf club was top drawer. Did they get paid, Mick was always vocal no one was paid. Not one player has came out and said they got paid. I actually witnessed an ex Drum Utd player pass over his £10 subs to John Fallon at Dalziel. He was collecting the club fees. I know that’s true.

The rumours have always been out there re Amateur clubs paying. Does it happen. I’ll leave that for others to decide.
 
Jason2101 said:
Lots of boys travelled to Colville when big Gerry was Manager then Mick took over. Best team about at that time. Bannockburn Eastfield Wishaw HSFP Drum Ams and Drum Utd Harestanes Shortlees Wellhouse and St Pats were all the big teams at that time. Be it from Greenock Cumbernauld Stirling Dumbarton or Drumchapel they travelled to Motherwell as facilities and pitch at Golf club was top drawer. Did they get paid, Mick was always vocal no one was paid. Not one player has came out and said they got paid. I actually witnessed an ex Drum Utd player pass over his £10 subs to John Fallon at Dalziel. He was collecting the club fees. I know that’s true.

The rumours have always been out there re Amateur clubs paying. Does it happen. I’ll leave that for others to decide.
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Ofcourse it happens, my local team Bowhill Rovers pumped Hurlford Thistle away 3-0 in the quarters one year and the striker walking off the park told us he gets paid and asked what the Bowhill boys get paid, couldn’t believe it when he was told they pay the club to play
 
TheGerz89 said:
Ofcourse it happens, my local team Bowhill Rovers pumped Hurlford Thistle away 3-0 and the striker walking off the park told us he gets paid and asked what the Bowhill boys get paid, couldn’t believe it when he was told they pay the club to play
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Hurlford were well known for it to be fair.
 
Cupar deserved the win. Back to back. First time since Colville Park. Can they make it 3 next years.

Cupar fans enjoy the hangovers. Big Ritchie Cupar Centre Forward available for Phil if need against Them.
 
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