Who's the "biggest" club with the poorest Honours list?

[TN8]

Was looking at Roma on Wikipedia the other day and was pretty surprised to learn that they've only been Champions of Italy 3 times. The last being 2001. I knew that was their last one and I knew they didn't have 10 because they don't have a star, but I'd have imagined they weren't that far off it!

Their Europa Conference League win the other week was their first major honour since 2007, and only the 15th in their entire history overall.

As the major football club in Italy's capital city that's fucking pish isn't it?

Any other candidates?

 

[Bigfoot]

Spurs

 

[der_hammer10]

I guess Lazio would fall into the same category. Only reason they sprung to mind though was because you mentioned Roma.

 

[Faure there’s not a team]

First reaction was Spurs.

Newcastle haven’t done much since the 1950s either.

 

[dcbear]

Newcastle United must be in with a shout. Only won the league once since the First World War and that was in the 20s. Havent won the cup in 60+ years.

 

[RFC-GSTQ]

The epl has quite a few; Newcastle Utd, West Ham, Leeds.

 

[giogaddi]

Roma for sure. Napoli.

Lazio are just a wee pishy club, not worth shouting about beating them.

 

[lovenkrands72]

I was looking at the list of Bundesliga winners, and was surprised at some of the teams hwo had never won it (Leverkusen in particular)

Actually Leverkusen have only won two major trophies - one German Cup and one UEFA Cup. Pretty pish

 

[giogaddi]

I was looking at the list of Bundesliga winners, and was surprised at some of the teams hwo had never won it (Leverkusen in particular)

Remember thinking they were just a weeish club when we got them in 1998. Decent side they were.

 

[3cheers.Rfc]

Spurs was the first that came to mind aswell.

 

[big_blue]

I don’t consider Newcastle as being a big club, never have.

They’re big in Newcastle and that’s it.

Just another average English team albeit they have a big support. That’s because they’re the only club in Newcastle.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Spurs was the first that came to mind aswell.

Only two top flight titles. However, they have 8 FA Cup wins, 4 League Cup wins and the small matter of a Cup Winners Cup win and 2 UEFA Cup wins into the bargain.

They are nowhere near being in contention for this particular 'honour'.

 

[Bluebeard]

Spurs was the first that came to mind aswell.

Spurs have won two league titles, eight FA Cups, four League Cups, In European football, they have won one European Cup Winners' Cup and two UEFA Cups. Also the first British side to win a European trophy.

Id hardly say they were “ unsuccessful”. For their size they could have won more but I’m sure there are clubs like PSG who have 1 european trophy for example.

 

[Rich Tea Biscuit]

Borussia Dortmund only won eight league titles in their history. Their support makes them famous not their on the pitch success imo

 

[Bluebeard]

Only two top flight titles. However, they have 8 FA Cup wins, 4 League Cup wins and the small matter of a Cup Winners Cup win and 2 UEFA Cup wins into the bargain.

They are nowhere near being in contention for this particular 'honour'.

Snap haha

 

[Shengus Malengus]

I don’t consider Newcastle as being a big club, never have.

They’re big in Newcastle and that’s it.

Just another average English team albeit they have a big support. That’s because they’re the only club in Newcastle.

The question was “the biggest club with the poorest record”. It doesn’t necessarily mean a huge/big club.
Newcastle are in with a shout.

Biggest club in Scotland with the poorest record? Could be another question.
It’ll be a diddy team though.

 

[Oggy]

Spurs famously contrived to come 3rd in a two horse race for the league between them and Leicester. I honestly don't think they'll have a better chance to win it for decades.

 

[Farkimedes]

Maybe Schalke?

Seven league titles, sure, but most of them were won during the bad years and therefore don't count IMO

After that, it's a couple of domestic cups, a UEFA cup and the fabled "Intertoto Cup"

 

[A Magician Named Gob]

Spurs have won two league titles, eight FA Cups, four League Cups, In European football, they have won one European Cup Winners' Cup and two UEFA Cups. Also the first British side to win a European trophy.

Id hardly say they were “ unsuccessful”. For their size they could have won more but I’m sure there are clubs like PSG who have 1 european trophy for example.

I might be wrong but from memory the entire French league has less than Scotland.

 

[Bob Belcher]

Villarreal have a Europa League, 2 Intertoto cups, and zero domestic honours

 

[JerseyLoyalist]

First reaction was Spurs.

Newcastle haven’t done much since the 1950s either.

Last trophy 1969.

 

[GovanFront4]

I was looking at the list of Bundesliga winners, and was surprised at some of the teams hwo had never won it (Leverkusen in particular)

Actually Leverkusen have only won two major trophies - one German Cup and one UEFA Cup. Pretty pish

Smallish club backed heavily by their owners.

 

[Davie Weir]

I was looking at the list of Bundesliga winners, and was surprised at some of the teams hwo had never won it (Leverkusen in particular)

Actually Leverkusen have only won two major trophies - one German Cup and one UEFA Cup. Pretty pish

The Neverkrusen curse

 

[Jelle1880]

Roma for sure. Napoli.

Lazio are just a wee pishy club, not worth shouting about beating them.

Lazio have the same amount of trophies like Roma

 

[GovanFront4]

Villarreal have a Europa League, 2 Intertoto cups, and zero domestic honours

They are a tiny team with heavy backing.

 

[GovanFront4]

Spurs have won two league titles, eight FA Cups, four League Cups, In European football, they have won one European Cup Winners' Cup and two UEFA Cups. Also the first British side to win a European trophy.

Id hardly say they were “ unsuccessful”. For their size they could have won more but I’m sure there are clubs like PSG who have 1 european trophy for example.

PSG are pretty much a manufactured team though. Only founded in 1970, only really became successful when the Arabs took over, the only had two league titles prior to then. Spurs are a pretty historic team in the UK so should have won much more.

 

[cooperman]

Bit off topic, I’ve always felt we should have had more than 1 European trophy to our name

 

[VGM]

Borussia Dortmund only won eight league titles in their history. Their support makes them famous not their on the pitch success imo

They have to contend with Bayern though.

 

[McCoist’sTinHat]

Spurs

Although they have won two European trophies

 

[GraemeButNotMurty]

Bit off topic, I’ve always felt we should have had more than 1 European trophy to our name

We were most likely cheated out of a Champions League final by match fixing, and have made five European finals. It's disappointing we haven't won more but that's still better than many big clubs in Britain.

 

[Valley Bluenose]

Although they have won two European trophies

Three mate. 1 x CWC and 2 x UEFA Cup.

 

[cooprfc]

This sounds utterly mental but I always think we look quite poor in a European sense.

We have 5 finals which is a respectable number outiwth the now super rich clubs yet only have one Euro trophy that's not even a thing any more. Always annoys me.

 

[Wazza]

I always think Lazio or Roma but Schalke is a huge runner, second most members in Germany - I make them bigger than Dortmund personally.

Hertha Berlin a funny Club but the whole City is funny on the football scene as well as money in general, given it’s the capital of Germany. I was at Oldenburg v Dynamo Berlin on Saturday, second leg for going up in to 3 Liga in Germany - the biggest match for Dynamo this century I reckon.

Hammarby in Stockholm ain’t won much.

 

[Zico]

Def spurs

 

[McCoist’sTinHat]

Three mate. 1 x CWC and 2 x UEFA Cup.

Stand corrected!

 

[GovanFront4]

Lyon haven't won anything of note really outside 7 years of dominance. Not sure where they ranked as a club size wise prior to the 7 in a row period.

 

[Bounty Hunter]

HSV? Nothing since the 80s. Kaiserslautern, Bremen and Stuttgart have been champions in fairly recent memory.

 

[Glasgow Rangers (Sco)]

Spurs

Title said big club

 

[BrooklynBlue]

I might be wrong but from memory the entire French league has less than Scotland.

That's what annoys me when Ligue 1 is referenced as a top 5 league - their clubs have achieved very little in Europe over the decades.

 

[nithbear]

Last trophy 1969

I went along to a former players` night in 2019, held to remember the 50th anniversary of our semi final against Newcastle in the Fairs Cup. It was held in a huge Working Men`s Club in Wallsend; and representing Rangers were Willie Johnston; Colin Stein; and Willie Henderson.
Newcastle had no less than eight of the team on stage, and numerous faces from later years in the audience; (the likes of Malcolm MacDonald).
The compere was the local evening newspaper columnist (of 50+ years) for United; who was an absolute mine of information.
At one point he addressed our legends, saying `your club has won countless trophies since then; and you will continue to win more`.......... `we`ve won bugger all since then; so by f*ck we`re clinging on to this for dear life` .
The room roared with self deprecating laughter.... 50 odd years is a hell of a wait for silverware.

 

[scotty27]

I was looking at the list of Bundesliga winners, and was surprised at some of the teams hwo had never won it (Leverkusen in particular)

Actually Leverkusen have only won two major trophies - one German Cup and one UEFA Cup. Pretty pish

They finished runners up in every comp in 02 including the Champions League. Ballack and a few others in the squad then went to the world cup that summer and continued the trend.

 

[OohAhHuistra]

So looks like Roma. Cheers @TN8 teally made us think for this one

 

[A Magician Named Gob]

That's what annoys me when Ligue 1 is referenced as a top 5 league - their clubs have achieved very little in Europe over the decades.

Anderlecht also have 5 European trophies which I think puts them ahead of the whole of France.

 

[BrooklynBlue]

Anderlecht also have 5 European trophies which I think puts them ahead of the whole of France.

PSG won the Cup Winners Cup in 1996. And, as we know, Marseille 'won' the European Cup in '93. And that's it.

Scotland have won more European trophies than France.

 

[Carson1912]

Frankfurt only have 6 trophies only won the league once.

 

[jimb366]

Have there been any teams who have never won a single thing?

Plus: the longest gap between player of the year awards; specialists in being runners-up; drawtastic (2); and bad defence, good team.

www.theguardian.com

2014 article

 

[PT98]

Lyon haven't won anything of note really outside 7 years of dominance. Not sure where they ranked as a club size wise prior to the 7 in a row period.

Wouldn't class Lyon as a big club tbh

 

[Wazza]

Without sounding rude anyone who thinks Leverkusen are a big Club really can’t know much about German Football. Just well ran, lot of Clubs could learn a lot from them. Probably the best example of a modern Club - proper Family Club and bloody good on Twitter for generating interest. Never qualified for the CL through winning out for example, yet have been in it about 15 times now I think. Not many members either, a huge source of income in Germany yet quite cheap to be one compared to other Clubs in Germany.

 

[giogaddi]

I always think Lazio or Roma but Schalke is a huge runner, second most members in Germany - I make them bigger than Dortmund personally.

Hertha Berlin a funny Club but the whole City is funny on the football scene as well as money in general, given it’s the capital of Germany. I was at Oldenburg v Dynamo Berlin on Saturday, second leg for going up in to 3 Liga in Germany - the biggest match for Dynamo this century I reckon.

Hammarby in Stockholm ain’t won much.

I was always under the impression that Schalke were the biggest club in Germany until Bayern blew up

 

[Daljam]

Saint etienne, joint most league titles in France, 10 along with psg, but haven't won ligue 1 since 1980 and have just been relegated to ligue 2 for next season.