The rules state excessive force off the ball is violent conduct. Charging someone in the back like that would count as excessive.Nothing he did to Morelos "part of the game", not when it's off the ball it isn't. It wasn't violent conduct, but he did foul off the ball, and we should have got a free kick and him getting a warning.
was just going to post the same thing , till I read your postThe compliant officer will probably award Mckenna a red card for it as he is injured and out for a couple of months .
This will make Rangers think that they are not being victimised.
He done it twice, is that not 2 yellow cards. The cvnts are at it and I'm glad we've called it out early doors.He is nowhere near his face, let’s not exaggerate here. It wasn’t violent conduct for me, yellow card- yes, not voilent conduct though.
Let me put it this way. If a Rangers player was sent off for what McKenna did, would you accept it and agree it was violent conduct? Of course you wouldn’t.
If we're applying the rules that strictly, yes.
If Morelos was excessive force then so was McKennas.
Was McKenna using excessive force by charging an opponent in the back off the ball?If you think it’s a red then carry on, not for me though, if a Rangers player was sent off for that everybody on here would be going mental.
Yeah I said that at the time whilst watching the replay (10 mins after the incident)..If he saw the kick out he MUST have saw the barge into Alf?Very strange that the linesman claimed he didnt see the barge but did see the reaction. They happened almost simultaneously. He's a liar. Plain and simple.
Was McKenna using excessive force by charging an opponent in the back off the ball?
The rules state excessive force off the ball is violent conduct. Charging someone in the back like that would count as excessive.
Throwing ball away - yellow
Throwing ball at an opponent - red
McKennas was. Morelos was nearly on his arse with the force of it.No, not necessarily
Regarding the first point - Aberdeen's goal, their number 8 runs from behind Anderson and straight through Tav, knocking him to the deck, meaning he is unable to get across to block/tackle Anderson. I've maintained since I saw it that it's a deliberate off the ball obstruction and should have been a free kick to us.
McKennas was. Morelos was nearly on his arse with the force of it.
Although under what circumstances would an unprovoked charge at an opponent from a few yards away really not be excessive?
There was a similar if not worse incident last year involving Bates and a St Johnstone player where Bates got kicked and went down. Was only a yellow card.
It was excessive force off the ball, if a defender did this to a striker in the penalty box waiting on a corner coming in, I’m sure the defender would have been punished.
I would agree (however at corners you do have the argument of challenging for the ball, close proximity of the players and the nature of jostling for position whereas McKenna deliberately charged an opponent who wasn't looking. Twice. McKennas goes from being a barge to a deliberate aggressive manouvere off the ball) and sensible officiating is to talk to both players, calm them down and if you feel it necessary then book them.We can agree to disagree on this one.
I would suggest if McKenna's barge was excessive and deemed violent conduct, there would be a heck of a lot of red cards being dished out particularly at corners. As said by others above, it was handbags & the only reason we are talking about it is because the officials made a complete ar*se of dealing with the situation.
I wouldn't say so.
Strange thing about the whole incident is neither player complains about anything or goes down looking for the foul
Was that claimed by the linesman? I didn't see him raise his flag or react. Did he?Very strange that the linesman claimed he didnt see the barge but did see the reaction. They happened almost simultaneously. He's a liar. Plain and simple.
That's a very good shout.The compliant officer will probably award Mckenna a red card for it as he is injured and out for a couple of months .
This will make Rangers think that they are not being victimised.
Yes if the ref is taking a strict approach to the game.Do you think that barge is a red card offence? Yes or no?
Really depends on the ref. Some let it go. Some don't.
Is there even a compliance officer employed at the SFA at the moment because if there is they must have snuck him (Patrick O’Flaherty) under the radar, if there isn’t with the footballl season now underway, it shows these amateurs up even more than they are already.The compliant officer will probably award Mckenna a red card for it as he is injured and out for a couple of months .
This will make Rangers think that they are not being victimised.
Aye, that's a free kick as well. Just runs him over. Clancy looking straight at it.
Agree said this at the time.I wouldn't say so.
Strange thing about the whole incident is neither player complains about anything or goes down looking for the foul
Really depends on the ref. Some let it go. Some don't.
The rules state excessive force off the ball is violent conduct. Charging someone in the back like that would count as excessive.
No, it's a man's game with physical contact.
It just so happens defenders know our forward has a suspect temperament and takes the bait.
So if you were running a football team, you would instruct your centre-half to instigate an off the ball shoulder charge on a forward whilst the ball was in the other half and expect it to pass as part of the game within the rules?No, it's a man's game with physical contact.
It just so happens defenders know our forward has a suspect temperament and takes the bait.
Not looking for witty replies.
Is McKenna barging off the ball not classed as violent conduct and should be cited by compliance officer?
Everyone seems to be focused on Morelos and not the provocation
So if you were running a football team, you would instruct your centre-half to instigate an off the ball shoulder charge on a forward whilst the ball was in the other half and expect it to pass as part of the game within the rules?
Tell me you are not being serious?
Totally agree will make things better and more exciting if we can just get the fair ref's with a good head and decent level of fitneesI mentioned that on Twitter. I'm glad we're appealing the red card because it will highlight what went on before it. We should highlight everything else which went on in the game as well. Put our referee marker down early, they're not getting away with it this season.
If I was playing against Morelos I would be pushing him, accidentally standing on his toes or up his achilles and threatening to leather him to see if he took the bait. Any centre half worth his salt would.