DougieJones
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IMO Rangers should get ahead of the game here - issue a statement to the effect that [to our considerable regret] no away allocations will be offered for the foreseeable future.
Well I hope everybody remembers this, every time the club gets the usual kicking on here for not going to war about it.Child? Only a child would be unable to see my point. What do you honestly think the SPFL would do if we took such action?
I worry aboit our players if we win. The way they are feeling i dont think we sre far off a may 99 reactionI would worry about our fans safety if we beat them on the 30th,they are out of fcking control at the moment
IMO Rangers should get ahead of the game here - issue a statement to the effect that [to our considerable regret] no away allocations will be offered for the foreseeable future.
Completely disagree.IMO Rangers should get ahead of the game here - issue a statement to the effect that [to our considerable regret] no away allocations will be offered for the foreseeable future.
Completely disagree.
I do understand the sentiment, but the SPFL have found them to be in the wrong. We take this approach and we’re wrong too, and it opens the door to the SPFL setting an arbitrary figure. And we know where that will end up.
But it will at some point.Being in the wrong results in no repercussions, apparently.
That’s the whole point.
Teams would just do it back. I dont want our team going to every away game without support in a title raceIMO Rangers should get ahead of the game here - issue a statement to the effect that [to our considerable regret] no away allocations will be offered for the foreseeable future.
If a % decision is brought into being, the home team will decide where the seats are.If it’s a % based rule they have no choice but to. Similarly if we drafted up a binding contract in regard to positioning (not that this annoys me as much).
But if you're in the wrong and there's a precedent for no consequences .....Completely disagree.
I do understand the sentiment, but the SPFL have found them to be in the wrong. We take this approach and we’re wrong too, and it opens the door to the SPFL setting an arbitrary figure. And we know where that will end up.
At the very least.Thats a cop out though, this is celtc refusing tickets for Ibrox and then not giving tickets to us, this is on them the rules should be applied correctly. If this was us we would receive a fine.
À court can’t make rules for a body to follow. The only recourse is judicial review. As I’ve explained I don’t think that’ll change anything as there appears to be no rule other than that the SPFL sets the amount of away fans they think is reasonable. They say they can’t because the scum didn’t give any evidence. I imagine that would include geography of the stadium,entry and exit points and police advice. It is clearly a nonsense. Any proper governing body would be proposing rule changes to sort it but I won’t hold my breath. You have to wonder what the SPFL do.In the same way that a government can be taken to court if they don't adhere to the rules that said government lay down. That's exactly what's happening here - for government, read spfl.
To fair, it will make the spfl do somethingAye, that'll sort it. Child
I've been banging on about this for ages, the Rangers board should have its own "pet" with no affiliation to the club to get our messages out so that the SFA can't punish the club for slagging referees and Celtc and the SFA & SPFL
Exactly, just treat them like another team, they get the corner if they want itJust back of a fag packet maths, but we give 2,500 and that’s 1,700 season tickets being given up. With the segregation area needed you can probably take that up to 2,200.
That’s around £1.2m in ticket income (assuming c£550 a ticket) plus guaranteed sell outs all year round.
That’s not worth giving up for any other team.
It's a pity that some posters Don,t understand this.compromise with rhats. They don't do compromise, it's my way or the highway with the beasts.
They cant stop this from happening at their ground, even with the small allocation.What changed for the previous allocation to suddenly be a safety concern
Exactly. They refused the tickets for Ibrox. Imagine if we hadn't offered . Would it still be dragging on???? W. I. FWhat's the point of the SPFL having rules and committees when they just let Celtic break those rules whenever they want.
I think 18000 but could be wrong.Can any older bears confirm how much the old Rangers end (I think the Janefield Stand it was called) held at the piggery? I stood in it a couple of times as a wee boy in the early 90s and if my memory serves I think we got something 13 - 15,000 tickets?
By 1999 they had fully redeveloped the midden and it was back up to 60,000 however we were given around 7,500.
The next time one of them tell you that we started the allocation debacle it might be worth pointing them in the direction of this fact and who actually began cutting the away allocation first.
What did that tit hannah say about it.This is very simply explained.
Rangers does not discriminate against any club in the SPFL, they are ALL offered the same amount of tickets.
If Celtic feel that they don't want tickets for Ibrox that's down to them.
They arrogantly believe that they are ENTITLED to the entire Broomloan Stand, as confirmed on RC radio tonight by Roger Hannah, and we have disabused them of that notion.
Every match at Ibrox where a full tifo has been displayed-you know the stand-is a statement of FACT that they will NEVER have it again.
Our fans are OUR priority.
Rats full lot them they want push throw to increase it back wat was I hope rangers stand strong tell there get f@@k all full stand ever aginClub Statement: Old Firm Ticketing
DESPITE winning a case put to an SPFL Board Sub-Committee, Rangers FC, with extreme disappointment, will not have any supporters present at Parkhead for the Old Firm match on December 30.www.rangers.co.uk
Any kind of league committee that is honest and some credibility would suggest that they forfeit any games where they dont comply with the rules. Or deliberately dont respond given they have the time. Just award the other team the game 3.0 that seems fair to me and would probably force them to comply.Club Statement: Old Firm Ticketing
DESPITE winning a case put to an SPFL Board Sub-Committee, Rangers FC, with extreme disappointment, will not have any supporters present at Parkhead for the Old Firm match on December 30.www.rangers.co.uk
They started scrapping amongst themselves last week. To keep their own fans safe Celtic should ban them from buying tickets. Until they can ensure their safety against each other. That the real safety concern at the moment.The Tim’s will just do exactly what they did the last time. Can’t give you a higher % of tickets due to safety and segregation concerns and they’ll just give us the exact same number of tickets as they get at Ibrox.
David Murray should have met this head on at the time and instead he allowed them to set a precedent.
Nothing! Just ignore the requests for evidence and nothing happens, you win.So what’s the punishment here for a member club failing to comply with a governing body sub committee?
IMO Rangers should get ahead of the game here - issue a statement to the effect that [to our considerable regret] no away allocations will be offered for the foreseeable future.
No it won't.To fair, it will make the spfl do something
Hearts fans where in attendance on Saturday we need to take this all the way .It should be pretty straightforward.
Reasonable is the allocation they offer to every other club.
Great post mate.This is very simply explained.
Rangers does not discriminate against any club in the SPFL, they are ALL offered the same amount of tickets.
If Celtic feel that they don't want tickets for Ibrox that's down to them.
They arrogantly believe that they are ENTITLED to the entire Broomloan Stand, as confirmed on RC radio tonight by Roger Hannah, and we have disabused them of that notion.
Every match at Ibrox where a full tifo has been displayed-you know the stand-is a statement of FACT that they will NEVER have it again.
Our fans are OUR priority.
Sub committee have deemed themselves to be totally pointless as well as spineless!That's absolutely disgraceful. Shambolic.
Celtic didn't comply with the sub-committee. The sub-committee found in favour of Rangers. But there will be no mandating that they provide tickets, and no punishment for not complying with the committee. They can't figure out what a "reasonable" number of tickets is to give to the visiting club, yet they give tickets to visiting clubs every other week.
And they still believe there is corruption in favour of Rangers. Anyone but Celtic eh?
That’s why we should’ve been proactive rather than reactive and been pre-empting this.If a % decision is brought into being, the home team will decide where the seats are.
They’ve just admitted their normal allocation they give to every spfl club causes safety issues. That sounds a pretty serious issue for whoever issues their safety certificate.Celtic have released an official statement
Celtic Football Club statement
Welcome to the official Celtic Football Club website featuring latest Celtic FC news, fixtures and results, ticket info, player profiles, hospitality, shop and more.www.celticfc.com
Given the recent serious safety and matchday issues which our fans have experienced at fixtures at Ibrox and Celtic Park, Celtic's position on this matter has been very clear.
Celtic welcomes the opportunity to seek to resolve these important issues, and it was a hearing for which the Club was very well-prepared.
We are pleased that the sub-committee recognised the importance of safety and matchday experience issues in considering the question of a reasonable allocation for both fixtures.
While respecting the ongoing process, Celtic stands by its decision not to allocate any tickets for away supporters for the match on December 30th.
Celtic will continue to focus on the importance of safety and matchday experience issues as we look to address reasonable allocations at Celtic Park and Ibrox from next year, in a responsible manner.